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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hellcow" data-source="post: 1615125" data-attributes="member: 15800">As others have surmised, my answer was intended as a joke, because I did not have time to address the question fully. I do that occasionally. I didn't create the weretouched master PrC, so I really can't speak to the thoughts behind this. I believe that it was James' class to begin with, but then it went through changes as it went through the production process, so I couldn't even tell you who DID develop it. But, if you want my two cents:1. What the weretouched master is doing with alternate form is effectively gaining the alternate form supernatural ability of a lycanthrope, with various restrictions. 2. The bonuses listed for alternate forms is the exact same table from page 178 of the MM 3.5. Do I think that they are balanced? Of course not. The problem is, the lycanthropes aren't balanced either. Yes, that werebear just kicks everyone's butt, and the wererat blows, which is a personal blow to me as I really like wererats. 3. If the weretouched master received different bonuses, (some) people would say "Why is the bear weretouched master so much lamer than a real werebear? Why is the rat weretouched master so much cooler than an actual wererat?" (And if you don't believe me, make a roleplaying game and do it. I'll bet you a doughnut.)4. To get alternate form, you need to be at least 10th level, putting you on a par with a druid being able wild shape (large) and or the power to cast a 5th level spell (or a 4th level spell, like polymorph). You can get a +16 str for a few rounds (remember, it's tied to shifting) -- your buddy the wizard can perform baleful polymorph, and the cleric can raise the dead. My concern is not the power of the bear -- you've chosen a class with a moderate BAB, 2 skill points/level, and no spell progression to get that cool ability, and as I said, your friend can raise the dead. Two more levels and the druid will be wild shaping into a dire bear, and he's got spells as well. It's more that the rat is just not as cool as you are. I can say "So what, the roleplayer plays the rat anyway, and the min/maxer goes for the bear", but I acknowledge that it's a raw deal for the rat. I believe that WotC just doesn't feel that they can change the pre-existing stat mods given for lycanthropes, since that is exactly what the power is, and I understand that. However, if you want the class to be fairer to the "lesser" beasts, I'd consider adding a Weretouched III providing some lesser ability to the weaker animals.  Hopefully that's less "irresponsible"...</blockquote>

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