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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hellcow" data-source="post: 4119584" data-attributes="member: 15800">Average ability scores and Skill Focus is going to get you +7 for Profession or Craft; both are class skills for commoners. For the healer, certainly, and in fact this is essentially the route I took with Maza Thadian, the 18th level commoner in Sharn. She's probably the greatest chef in Khorvaire. With all her skill points, she could also be the greatest blacksmith and the greatest animal handler. Instead, she's on the City Council and has put most of her skill points into cross-class skills needed for that role - making her an excellent diplomat, but not substantially better than the 7th-9th level experts she works with, who get Diplomacy, Bluff, and Sense Motive as class skills (and who are themselves pretty bad@$$ at 7th-9th level). But NOBODY comes close to her in the kitchen. There's lots of ways around this. Again, I'm not saying it's a fatal flaw of 3E; I've been playing with it in 3E for years, pushing for more NPCs with NPC classes and creating people like Maza Thadian. My point is simply that the 4E approach is in my mind even BETTER for Eberron than NPC classes are. The NPC has the skills he needs to have, and that's it - there's no question of where those unused skill points or feats got to.</blockquote>