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Keith Baker on 4E! (The Hellcow responds!)
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<blockquote data-quote="Benimoto" data-source="post: 4121246" data-attributes="member: 40093"><p>That I can agree with. I hope there some kinds of rules for modeling monsters as allies in a fight, including healing surges, etc. I suspect there are, even if they're something totally different than the PC rules, like all monster get 1 healing surge per encounter or something.</p><p></p><p>I agree that 4e seems to center on the PCs a lot more, but I don't think that's all bad. To use Keith's argument before, the parity between NPCs and PCs in 3rd edition meant that if you wanted an NPC to have 1 skill, that NPC had to have 2-6 skills, corresponding hit dice feats, etc. In 4e, it seems that there's no reason why you can't flesh out an NPC with the full "player treatment" if you want to, just that you don't have to if you don't need to.</p><p></p><p>In other words, if you want to, you (probably) still can tell the story of "that guy" if you want to take a different path from the movies. But, if your D&D game does follow the movies, the DM isn't stuck making up a full statblock for every guy that appears onscreen for 2 seconds in Episode V. I mean, George Lucas didn't, and he still created a whole believable world in the Star Wars movies. Why should the DM have to?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Benimoto, post: 4121246, member: 40093"] That I can agree with. I hope there some kinds of rules for modeling monsters as allies in a fight, including healing surges, etc. I suspect there are, even if they're something totally different than the PC rules, like all monster get 1 healing surge per encounter or something. I agree that 4e seems to center on the PCs a lot more, but I don't think that's all bad. To use Keith's argument before, the parity between NPCs and PCs in 3rd edition meant that if you wanted an NPC to have 1 skill, that NPC had to have 2-6 skills, corresponding hit dice feats, etc. In 4e, it seems that there's no reason why you can't flesh out an NPC with the full "player treatment" if you want to, just that you don't have to if you don't need to. In other words, if you want to, you (probably) still can tell the story of "that guy" if you want to take a different path from the movies. But, if your D&D game does follow the movies, the DM isn't stuck making up a full statblock for every guy that appears onscreen for 2 seconds in Episode V. I mean, George Lucas didn't, and he still created a whole believable world in the Star Wars movies. Why should the DM have to? [/QUOTE]
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