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<blockquote data-quote="Hellcow" data-source="post: 4121660" data-attributes="member: 15800">And, of course, if you DO want to play the &quot;living on the edge&quot; rule, you could just make the PCs minions... though with that said, I think there's been some good suggestions for 0-level PCs on this thread. &quot;Different zeitgeist&quot; is really what I'd say. If you want the system where you can choose to start out at a weak &quot;two-magic-missiles-then-the-crossbow-for-the-day&quot; first level, virtually doubling in power when you hit second, there's a game out there for you - 3E. Quality companies like Paizo are going to continue to support that system. 4E is doing something different. It's not that 4E is some sort of new-fangled revolution in gaming, or that it is unquestionably better than 3E in all ways - right here we've identified one way in that it's not, namely that it's not as good if you WANT the fragile first level character. It's designed for a particular flavor of play. Personally, I'm really enjoying it. But I have no doubt that others will prefer 3E - which again makes it a good thing that some companies intend to continue supporting the system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hellcow, post: 4121660, member: 15800"] And, of course, if you DO want to play the "living on the edge" rule, you could just make the PCs minions... though with that said, I think there's been some good suggestions for 0-level PCs on this thread. "Different zeitgeist" is really what I'd say. If you want the system where you can choose to start out at a weak "two-magic-missiles-then-the-crossbow-for-the-day" first level, virtually doubling in power when you hit second, there's a game out there for you - 3E. Quality companies like Paizo are going to continue to support that system. 4E is doing something different. It's not that 4E is some sort of new-fangled revolution in gaming, or that it is unquestionably better than 3E in all ways - right here we've identified one way in that it's not, namely that it's not as good if you WANT the fragile first level character. It's designed for a particular flavor of play. Personally, I'm really enjoying it. But I have no doubt that others will prefer 3E - which again makes it a good thing that some companies intend to continue supporting the system. [/QUOTE]

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