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<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 4122717" data-attributes="member: 1054"><p>This is odd, since it's a major problem I have with 4e -- everyone gets better at everything. The tenth level wizard has +5 Athletics, +5 Acrobatics, +Streetwise, +5 Everything. Sure, he might be better at Arcane stuff, but he's got no real weak spots. And his pal Joe the Fighter has a +5 Arcane check, presumably from listening to the wizard blather on for ten levels. Further, everyone can heal themselves (Second Wind), everyone has the same power structure (this many at-will, that many daily), and a lot of the powers look the same mechanically, just with different special effects. The difference between a 4e Magic Missile and a 4e crossbow? Not much. Warlocks are no longer unique blasting machines; Wizards are no longer masters of a wide range of magical effects. (All the non-combat stuff seems to be rituals, and I've gotten the impression anyone can learn rituals.)</p><p></p><p>So I'm very intrigued that you see it as the opposite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 4122717, member: 1054"] This is odd, since it's a major problem I have with 4e -- everyone gets better at everything. The tenth level wizard has +5 Athletics, +5 Acrobatics, +Streetwise, +5 Everything. Sure, he might be better at Arcane stuff, but he's got no real weak spots. And his pal Joe the Fighter has a +5 Arcane check, presumably from listening to the wizard blather on for ten levels. Further, everyone can heal themselves (Second Wind), everyone has the same power structure (this many at-will, that many daily), and a lot of the powers look the same mechanically, just with different special effects. The difference between a 4e Magic Missile and a 4e crossbow? Not much. Warlocks are no longer unique blasting machines; Wizards are no longer masters of a wide range of magical effects. (All the non-combat stuff seems to be rituals, and I've gotten the impression anyone can learn rituals.) So I'm very intrigued that you see it as the opposite. [/QUOTE]
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