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<blockquote data-quote="Hellcow" data-source="post: 4123054" data-attributes="member: 15800"><p>No one's told me that. I'd love to talk about multiclassing and rituals, but I'm not going to do it unless I see someone else do it first, preferably someone who actually works for WotC. Given that Jonathan Tweet revealing the names of a hanful of paragon paths remains headline news, I'm guessing that they aren't. And I'm not saying that anyone's concerns aren't <em>valid</em>; I'm saying that some people are drawing flawed conclusions from the limited information that's available, which is perfectly understandable. Lizard's concern about universal skill advancement is ENTIRELY valid, as shown by the fact that both Michelle and I felt the same way even with rules in hand. However, after having played with it and seeing how characters actually break down across the levels, it doesn't turn out the way I originally feared it would. </p><p></p><p>I don't expect peoples' concerns to truly be laid to rest until they actually get to play the game itself - not even when they get ahold of the rules, but when they actually PLAY with them. I had many doubts until I started creating my own adventures, and creating characters and NPCs across many levels.</p><p></p><p>I don't see this as an "argument". As I've said many times now, I don't believe that any gamer who sees 4E will suddenly have the scales fall from their eyes and have all doubt magically wiped away. With Lizard's preference for world simulation over hero-based adventure, I think there's every chance that he will prefer 3E to 4E. I'm just trying to clarify where I can... within the limits of an NDA that no one's specifically cut me loose from. </p><p></p><p>But hey, if the WotC folks say otherwise, i'd love to dig into rituals. If you've found some post by a WotC employee specifically stating that the playtest NDAs are no longer binding, please point me to it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hellcow, post: 4123054, member: 15800"] No one's told me that. I'd love to talk about multiclassing and rituals, but I'm not going to do it unless I see someone else do it first, preferably someone who actually works for WotC. Given that Jonathan Tweet revealing the names of a hanful of paragon paths remains headline news, I'm guessing that they aren't. And I'm not saying that anyone's concerns aren't [i]valid[/i]; I'm saying that some people are drawing flawed conclusions from the limited information that's available, which is perfectly understandable. Lizard's concern about universal skill advancement is ENTIRELY valid, as shown by the fact that both Michelle and I felt the same way even with rules in hand. However, after having played with it and seeing how characters actually break down across the levels, it doesn't turn out the way I originally feared it would. I don't expect peoples' concerns to truly be laid to rest until they actually get to play the game itself - not even when they get ahold of the rules, but when they actually PLAY with them. I had many doubts until I started creating my own adventures, and creating characters and NPCs across many levels. I don't see this as an "argument". As I've said many times now, I don't believe that any gamer who sees 4E will suddenly have the scales fall from their eyes and have all doubt magically wiped away. With Lizard's preference for world simulation over hero-based adventure, I think there's every chance that he will prefer 3E to 4E. I'm just trying to clarify where I can... within the limits of an NDA that no one's specifically cut me loose from. But hey, if the WotC folks say otherwise, i'd love to dig into rituals. If you've found some post by a WotC employee specifically stating that the playtest NDAs are no longer binding, please point me to it. [/QUOTE]
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