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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nutluck" data-source="post: 4123106" data-attributes="member: 4844">Oh i am sure there is much about the game all of us that has not played the finished product have no clue about and have wrong on both sides of the 4e line. But a example is I utterly loath at will, per encounter and per day break up of abilities and spells. I get why people like them, I just find them unappealing. There is a host of things like that, some of them I might find are not as bad as I thought and some things I am sure will be worse.I was geeked for 4e at first and I wanted to really like it. But basicily from my stand point I wanted WotC to do a complete rebuild. The problem is they took a left hand turn and I wanted them to take a right hand turn. Many of the changes went in the oppsite direction than i wanted them to go.I know someone will say wait and try it. I plan to look the books over and if someone else buys them and runs a game i will give it a fair shot. But I do know certain styles don't appeal to me and the per encounter is a big one. That was the big thing that really bugged me about WW WoD stuff, is they had a lot of powers that last for a scene ect. *shrug* I just didn't like that.So we will see. I am just saying what and why i have reservations. I am not sure Pathfinder RPG will work for me either but like 4e i plan to take a look at it and if someone runs it give it a try before deciding. Maybe hopefully I will be pleasently surprised by one or both of them. I just currently have my doubts.</blockquote>

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