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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nutluck" data-source="post: 4125691" data-attributes="member: 4844">Never said the things I am asking for and lizard can't be optional rules. They can even have a note saying optional rules only for experienced GM's. Only offering stuff to the lowest common point to me is limiting the game to much and asking experienced people to eventually leave when they want more. I think 4e could and should offer that more as options for those that want them is all i am saying. Never said 3e didn't have faults. In fact it has a lot of them and I was pumped for 4e at first cause I was hoping they would fix them and still leave a flexible system. As it stands right now 4e seems to be less the type of game i want than 3e was.I am not and have never said 4e should cater to me. I only got in this debate to shore up a point of view. That is style of play makes a big difference on what one wants.i wish 4e cater to me, it doesn't seem like it will. i am fine with that. i am not ranting demand it should. i am only experiencing my opinion I wish it had and why i think that would have been a better decision on the part of WotC.</blockquote>