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Message: <blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 2889699" data-attributes="member: 40166">Not really. Most people doing a study like this without hard numbers are likely to see the results they want. Even if you do have statistics, you're claiming causation, when the best you could do is correlation.What? The level of proof required for what? The fact is, to prove that piracy forced a company into bancrupcy, you have to show that without the piracy, they wouldn't have been forced into bancrupcy. That's the logical conclusion.Predation of profits is if you keep your profits as gold and a predator like a xorn eats them. No one is acting like a predator towards the profits; none of these people have any intent (like a predator would) towards the profits.Janis Ian said that at the height of Napster, she was getting $2700 a year from people who came to her site and bought a CD and admitted that they first heard of her through Napster.On another pointThat making a medium much less vulnerable to piracy is impossible should be obvious. Data can always be extracted via analog means in the worst case. The way the computer program industry has gone back and forth between massive lock down and minimal technical restrictions show good evidence that users don't like having to jump through hoops just to play a game or listen to music.</blockquote>