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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6188515" data-attributes="member: 2067">I disagree.These are all D&D creatures, and belong in D&D. There is no such thing as setting-exclusive. If it's a good idea for your games, you crib it. If it's not, it's not hurting you by being there. And since no one is making you play a kender, or use them at your table, it's not hurting you to let someone else play them.Really, the attempts at pointless gatekeeping all over this thread are a little disheartening to me. Look, people are going to play this game in ways you don't approve of. Someone is going to have kender and drow casting spells from the Book of Erotic Fantasy on the gods to kill them. It's going to happen. Someone might have a lot of fun doing that. Why should you care?Great, your hatred of other peoples' fun is all-consuming, that sounds totally constructive and not all a waste of your time and energy. I think DMs in this position need to ask themselves if their hatred of a particular character option outweighs their love of the game. If so, please help me understand.....let me take a step back for a sec.This doesn't sound to me like hatred of the kender per se. It sounds more like a hatred of a certain kind of jerk player who uses kender (or Chaotic Neutral or paladins or whatever) as an excuse to be a jerk to the rest of the people at the table. So lets call a club a club and not blame the game element for the behavior of some jerk players. Yes, a player who constantly interrupts the game by causing trouble in the game world is kind of a problem, but that's a problem independent of a kender PC race. If so, lets talk about those players, and some strategies for dealing with them, because kender or not, people will have to deal with players like this.</blockquote>

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