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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 6188569" data-attributes="member: 6701124">So, a group member pitches a campaign idea they'd like to run to the rest of the group, and the group says "sure, go for it".  Wouldn't it be a good thing if the potential DM had a reasonably strong picture in their head of the basics of the campaign world the story will be set-in?   In that case, if the player suggests a race and rationale for them being in the world, and the DM still can't see it, is saying no arrogant on the part of the DM or just part of job they volunteered for?   (e.g. a Kitsune ninja in an Egyptian themed game, a Dwarf Cleric in a human only world with a specified pantheon, ... )In a way, aren't all D&D creatures "setting-exclusive"? If your campaign world doesn't have some race (humans? elves? dwarves?), I wonder if having them integrated throughout the core rule-book would be kind of annoying.  As @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=78752" target="_blank">DMZ2112</a> notes in post #33, the rule book sets up default expectations in the player's heads. With extra races you are in the position of having to tell them what limitations your world is operating under instead of presenting it from the positive side of all the wonderful opportunities they have.  For me, having Tieflings and Dragonborn and whatnot in the 4E PHB's is part of what gave me a bad first impression of that edition... out of the gate it announced "we're not going to line up with traditional-D&D, get over it".  I'd like the traditional classic core races presented as being the standard ones that usually pop-up (but check out your DM's campaign notes!).  Having one other race from each of several settings presented in the core book as "hey, look at these cool ideas to expand the basic world (and go buy some campaign books!)" would be fine by me too. And having all the extra ones from 4E listed as "other popular races that may be in many campaigns" seems reasonable to me for inter-edition harmony.</blockquote>

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