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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6694957" data-attributes="member: 6799649">Most players know what PvP looks like. If you cast magic missile on your mate, or he hits you upside the head with his greataxe, that's PvP and everyone knows it,It's up to each group to decide whether or not PvP is acceptable. I hate it, personally.So, basically, PvP is 'using the abilities that you would use on your enemies, and using them on your friends'. Unless the player agrees to it.Those abilities include, but are not limited to:-* attacking them with weapons for real or temporary damage* casting spells at them, whether to damage them or charm them or any other spell you cast at enemies to defeat them* steal from them!The trouble with the way kender are written is that they steal from their friends, but don't know that this is wrong. Worse, the player of the kender does know that stealing from friends is PvP, but thinks that 'it's okay because I'm a kender and it's cute'.It's as 'okay' for a kender PC to steal from the barbarian PC as it is for the barbarian to axe the kender to death. If you think that it's okay for your kender to steal from my barbarian, then it's okay for my barbarian to kill your kender.This attitude led to The Great Kender Cull in my Dragonlance campaign. 'Genocide' is such an ugly word. There are no kender left for players to play, and even Takhesis feels that the world is a nicer place.</blockquote>