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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MG.0" data-source="post: 6696203" data-attributes="member: 6799436">I'm not rationalizing anything. I pulled that almost verbatim from the Kender description. Now you may think the book is rationalizing, but that's something else entirely. The book explains that they don't steal, they borrow. In their society no one would ever think to say no, so they naively assume everyone thinks the same. The books show that Kender do learn after being around other races for a time (even Tasselhoff did), so I think the problem is not really the race, but rather the same bad players that cause problems with virtually everything they play by playing cardboard cutouts with zero thought beyond themselves, or worse, by maliciously playing cardboard cutouts in an attempt to annoy everyone around them.I get that a lot of people don't like Kender, I really do, and that's OK. Personally I think Tieflings and Barbarians are completely idiotic, but I wouldn't ban someone from playing them. I just don't see Kender as any less appropriate as a character race than any of the other problematic race/class/alignment combinations. Truthfully, the most disruptive in my experience has been the lawful good paladin of any race.To those who suggest Kender society is unbelieveable....really? I mean really?  Yeah, because a race of short bearded dudes/dudettes who live their entire lives drunk off their asses in underground mines are believable as a functional society. Don't get me started on elves. Arrogant bastards who wouldn't lift a finger to plant crops if they were all starving to death. Tieflings should just be executed on sight. Goliath - cause half-orcs weren't bad enough, we needed another race of big stupid people. Wait isn't that redundant with respect to the barbarian class? See, I can play that game too. It's fantasy people. It takes no more effort to believe Kender could exist than Dwarves. It's incredible the lack of imagination one can find among D&D players.</blockquote>

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