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Message: <blockquote data-quote="moritheil" data-source="post: 3086243" data-attributes="member: 30610">Hyp - I have freely admitted at all points throughout this discourse that I do not recall the development of arguments with clarity, though I do remember the outcome.  That said, I believe this will help. The argument that holy unholy weapons are impossible hinges upon the assertion that all aligned weapons must be one of the nine alignments - and the implicit assumption that all weapons that bypass align-based DR are aligned.  However, the statements cannot both be true.  (This can be easily shown, and is the counterexample to the assertion that all weapons bypass alignment-based DR because they are aligned, and that the two statements are equivalent.)    The nine alignments argument, while initially appearing reasonable, is ultimately not airtight.A good example is to consider a solar - a solar can pick up a sword and bypass DR/good with it, even if the sword has no alignment.  If the sword did have to become suddenly aligned, and only the nine alignments were possible, that would imply that the solar could not pick up an evil-aligned weapon and still bypass DR/good with it.  And we know that the solar can bypass DR/good with any manufactured weapon it wields, which of course could include an evil-aligned sword if no other were available.  The argument can of course be made in reverse with a pit fiend.Another example might be the case you mentioned - a holy bow with unholy ammunition bypasses DR/good and DR/evil.  By your own admission, it's impossible to have a good evil alignment, as it is not one of the nine alignments.The solution to this conundrum is to admit that either things need not be aligned to bypass alignment, or aligned weapons need not have one of the nine standard alignments.  Last time, for whatever reason, the conclusion reached was the latter.</blockquote>

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