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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AdmundfortGeographer" data-source="post: 1648358" data-attributes="member: 4682">Okay, so we know that the population counts DO NOT include children.  That is worth knowing.  But the population counts also count a lot of creatures that some folks might not consider worth counting in population tallies. Goblinoids (goblins, bugbears, hobgoblins), orcs, kobolds, rakshasas, medusas, harpies, hill giants, minotaurs, ogres, trolls, lizardfolk.  That's less "people" in the numbers, in the minds of some.  Myself, I'm glad that some of these creatures that have societies are taken into account and "counted".Another thought I had is that humans are colonists of Khorvaire. (How long have humans been in Europe as original inhabitants without monsters to deal with?)  A first wave settled the islands to the northeast 3,000 years ago, and then another wave settled the mainland 1,500 years ago.  These seas ARE actually monster filled. How many would have actually made the trip?Starting from that small base of original settlers that spread across the continent to find their 1,000 acres to farm, were they thinking of coming over to start empires with metropolises? The majority would be looking for a farm for their own. Most of those first farmers would have been slaughtered by the monsters in the wild, so there goes another batch of original humans. So instead those first humans would have grabbed good defensible territory which could be farmed and collectively defended. Not until 500 years after the original humans the distinctive settlements that become the "Five Nations" begin to be recognizable. Khorvaire doesn't sound like it was populated by wave after wave of continuous colonization from a continent going through an industrial revolution like North and South America. Just an original wave followed by a second instance.  Then the history of Khorvaire is one of repeated conquering, attempted annexations, civil wars, inquisitions (like against lycanthropes), rebellions, invasions from Khyber (like when medusas came up and took possession of Cazaak Draal).  In 987 there were still settlers moving out to farm new land in "civilized" lands like Breland, as when King Boranel pulled settlers back.And I don't think there are any peoples in Eberron that have discovered Norman Borlaug's "Green Revolution" or modern farming techniques. A population is only as big as it can feed itself, no matter how many lightning trains it can build.Regards,Eric Anondson</blockquote>

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