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<blockquote data-quote="reanjr" data-source="post: 1655501" data-attributes="member: 20740">That was pointed out to me, but it only changes scale not the concept.I wasn't using Sharn (as I said I did not have those numbers) as an example.&nbsp; I was simply pointing out a reason why some people have a problem with unplausible population density.&nbsp; It doesn't bother me in the least.&nbsp; I see it as more a boon if the numbers are right, but not a bane if they aren't.That may be true for some settings, but not all (Dragonalance and Ravenloft for instance are certainly more male-dominant while Dark Sun was entirely egalitarian; I don't know about Eberron, but they probably went the PC route and made it egalitarian).&nbsp; And there may be a difference between equal number of women adventurers and equal number of women leaders/soldiers.&nbsp; In addition, whether or not women are excluded, you still have to exclude about half the population as being taken up by raising kids and doing house duties, whether that be man or woman.&nbsp; I was simply using gender as a demarcation because it is familiar to the medieval (and as far as soldiers go, the modern) world.Generally police force is different from army, but they can be rolled into one (especially in smaller population centers).&nbsp; Not to mention the police force is the first to be levied into the army I would imagine.&nbsp; Foot soldiers did not manage policing the local citezenry in medieval European population centers (major cities).&nbsp; Though there are exceptions.&nbsp; Yes, an army would be raised, but it is quite likely that an army could not be raised and trained in time to accomplish much unless there is a sizable force to hold off an attack.Well, I certainly wasn't thinking about a roaming band of 1,000 hobgoblins.&nbsp; I was referring to a state that decided to expand.I haven't talked about civilation spreading and towns rising.&nbsp; I was talking about maintenance.&nbsp; If 10 million people were given the United States today, they couldn't possibly manage or defend it.&nbsp; It's about upkeep.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="reanjr, post: 1655501, member: 20740"] That was pointed out to me, but it only changes scale not the concept. I wasn't using Sharn (as I said I did not have those numbers) as an example. I was simply pointing out a reason why some people have a problem with unplausible population density. It doesn't bother me in the least. I see it as more a boon if the numbers are right, but not a bane if they aren't. That may be true for some settings, but not all (Dragonalance and Ravenloft for instance are certainly more male-dominant while Dark Sun was entirely egalitarian; I don't know about Eberron, but they probably went the PC route and made it egalitarian). And there may be a difference between equal number of women adventurers and equal number of women leaders/soldiers. In addition, whether or not women are excluded, you still have to exclude about half the population as being taken up by raising kids and doing house duties, whether that be man or woman. I was simply using gender as a demarcation because it is familiar to the medieval (and as far as soldiers go, the modern) world. Generally police force is different from army, but they can be rolled into one (especially in smaller population centers). Not to mention the police force is the first to be levied into the army I would imagine. Foot soldiers did not manage policing the local citezenry in medieval European population centers (major cities). Though there are exceptions. Yes, an army would be raised, but it is quite likely that an army could not be raised and trained in time to accomplish much unless there is a sizable force to hold off an attack. Well, I certainly wasn't thinking about a roaming band of 1,000 hobgoblins. I was referring to a state that decided to expand. I haven't talked about civilation spreading and towns rising. I was talking about maintenance. If 10 million people were given the United States today, they couldn't possibly manage or defend it. It's about upkeep. [/QUOTE]

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