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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 9729445" data-attributes="member: 58416">I don't necessarily disagree with that. There's a learning curve to figuring out which pieces you need.However, that's why this Kickstarter is a good product. It does that work for you and presents a self-contained game.GURPS products which also do that are After the End (Fallout, Mad Max, Thundarr); Dungeon Fantasy* (D&Dish fantasy); Monster Hunters (pretty much what it says); and a few others.*I like Dungeon Fantasy a lot, but it does start at a power level that might be rough to learn for a new group. Coincidentally, Douglas Cole -the same guy writing this Kickstarter- has a series of books that address that.Mission X (from my understanding) takes the idea of a self-contained game even further.</blockquote>