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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfspider" data-source="post: 89922" data-attributes="member: 300"><p>Getting a bit snarky, aren't you? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>I didn't offer an anology because I don't think a good one can be drawn between the D&D game and any particular movie (not even the D&D movie).</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Well, if this is the way you want to run your games when you're DM, that's fine. But I hope you're able to deal with the other situaitions that crop up when death loses its sting. Undying kings and nobles, normal folks who demand resurrection magics when they see their loved ones fade and die, villains who never really die but just get raised by their cohorts and allies when they are overcome. Overpopulation of the earth, the depopulation of heaven and hell, the possible wrath of the gods--all of these are cans of worms I would rather leave closed. That's why in my campaign life-restoring magics are very rare and only infrequently used. In my mind, if being killed results in just a minor inconvenience (and being completely healed 10 minutes later doesn't reflect a nasty wound as you claim but an injury of paper-cut severity), then things have degenerated into a level of silly that I don't even want to contemplate.</p><p></p><p>Also consider how an episode as described in this thread could get out of hand later on. If the characters know that anyone threatened by a villian can be raised from the dead with impunity, maybe this will lead to preemptive killing of innocents. </p><p></p><p>For example, a nasty dragon says that it will wipe out an entire village if the king doesn't surrender his daughter. What will a party of "heroes" do? Well, wipe out the village first, of course! And, just to be sure, they'd kill the king's daughter as well. Now the dragon's threats are empty and they can deal with the annoying reptile at their leisure. And what's the rush, by the way? Anyone toasted by the dragon can just be raised later. So let's just chill....</p><p></p><p>Silly? Absolutely. But this is the kind of situation a DM may be faced if he or she adopts a completely liberal policy regarding resurrections.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Are you saying that the <strong>rouge</strong> and the girl should just <strong>make up</strong>? That the DM should just <strong>gloss</strong> over the entire affair? That's hardly the <strong>foundation</strong> of justice, you know. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Yes, I'm shameless, but you won't see me blush.... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolfspider, post: 89922, member: 300"] Getting a bit snarky, aren't you? :rolleyes: I didn't offer an anology because I don't think a good one can be drawn between the D&D game and any particular movie (not even the D&D movie). Well, if this is the way you want to run your games when you're DM, that's fine. But I hope you're able to deal with the other situaitions that crop up when death loses its sting. Undying kings and nobles, normal folks who demand resurrection magics when they see their loved ones fade and die, villains who never really die but just get raised by their cohorts and allies when they are overcome. Overpopulation of the earth, the depopulation of heaven and hell, the possible wrath of the gods--all of these are cans of worms I would rather leave closed. That's why in my campaign life-restoring magics are very rare and only infrequently used. In my mind, if being killed results in just a minor inconvenience (and being completely healed 10 minutes later doesn't reflect a nasty wound as you claim but an injury of paper-cut severity), then things have degenerated into a level of silly that I don't even want to contemplate. Also consider how an episode as described in this thread could get out of hand later on. If the characters know that anyone threatened by a villian can be raised from the dead with impunity, maybe this will lead to preemptive killing of innocents. For example, a nasty dragon says that it will wipe out an entire village if the king doesn't surrender his daughter. What will a party of "heroes" do? Well, wipe out the village first, of course! And, just to be sure, they'd kill the king's daughter as well. Now the dragon's threats are empty and they can deal with the annoying reptile at their leisure. And what's the rush, by the way? Anyone toasted by the dragon can just be raised later. So let's just chill.... Silly? Absolutely. But this is the kind of situation a DM may be faced if he or she adopts a completely liberal policy regarding resurrections. Are you saying that the [b]rouge[/b] and the girl should just [b]make up[/b]? That the DM should just [b]gloss[/b] over the entire affair? That's hardly the [b]foundation[/b] of justice, you know. :D Yes, I'm shameless, but you won't see me blush.... ;) [/QUOTE]
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