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<blockquote data-quote="Amakar" data-source="post: 4274900" data-attributes="member: 60900"><p><strong>Death to Mongo in 8 Rounds!</strong></p><p></p><p>In the true spirit of Min-Maxing, I had to use unconventional options. Off to the MM!</p><p></p><p>Mongo dies in 8 rounds to the horror of : <u>Grunk, the Bugbear Brawny Rogue.</u></p><p><u></u></p><p>Bugbear Rogue: </p><p></p><p>Build: Str: 16, Dex: 20, Con: 11, Int: 10, Wis: 10, Cha: 8</p><p></p><p>Class: Rogue</p><p>Option: Brawny</p><p>At will Power: Piercing Strike</p><p>Encounter: Torturous Strike</p><p>Feat: Warrior of the Wild (Ranger Multiclass for hunter's Quarry)</p><p></p><p>Racial Features ( +2str, +2 dex included),</p><p>Racial Encounter: Predatory Eye: Add +1d6 extra damage when you have CA)</p><p>Racial Feature: Oversized: You may use weapons 1 size large than yourself.</p><p></p><p>Weapon: Large Shortsword: 1d8 but still a light blade.</p><p></p><p><strong>Strategy</strong>: Save the encounters for when he's flanking. Otherwise use Piercing Strike</p><p></p><p>Attack Options:</p><p></p><p><u>Torturous Strike</u>( vs flanked)</p><p>+10 vs AC Damage 2d8 + 8 +2d6 +3 +1d6</p><p>Roll</p><p>1-6 Miss</p><p>7-19: 30.5 av damage</p><p>20 = 45 damage</p><p></p><p>Round Average : <strong>22.45</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p></p><p><u>Piercing Strike</u> (Not flanked): </p><p>+8 vs Ref 1d8+5 +1d6</p><p>Rolls</p><p>1 to 6: Miss</p><p>7-19: 13damage</p><p>20: 19 damage</p><p></p><p>Round Average: <strong>9.4</strong></p><p></p><p><u>Piercing Strike w/ Predatory Eye </u>(vs flanked)</p><p></p><p>+10 vs Ref 1d8+5 +2d6 + 3 + 1d6 + 1d6</p><p>Roll</p><p>1 to 3: miss</p><p>3 to 19: 26.5 damage</p><p>20: 40 Damage</p><p></p><p>Round Average: <strong>23.2</strong></p><p></p><p><u>Piercing Strike</u> ( with flank)</p><p></p><p>+10 vs Ref 1d8+5 +2d6+3 + 1d6</p><p>1 to 3 miss</p><p>3 to 19: 23 damage</p><p>20: 34 damage</p><p></p><p>Round Average <strong>20.1</strong></p><p></p><p>Mongo Starts Flanked:</p><p>Round 1: Tort. Strike* 22.45 dmg; 22.45 ttl</p><p>Round 2: Pier. Strike 9.4 dmg; 31.85 ttl</p><p>Round 3: Pier Strike** 23.3 dmg; 55.15 ttl</p><p>Round 4: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 64.55 ttl</p><p>Round 5: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg; 84.65 ttl</p><p>Round 6: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 94.05 ttl</p><p>Round 7: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg;114.15 ttl</p><p>Round 8: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 123.55 ttl DEAD MONGO</p><p>Round 9: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg; 143.65 ttl</p><p>Round 10<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />ier Strike 9.4 dmg; 153.05 ttl</p><p></p><p>*using hunter's quarry</p><p>** Using Predatory Eye</p><p></p><p>153.05 Average damage</p><p></p><p>If Mongo is unflanked on round one (flank in even round) and Grunk has combat advantage:</p><p></p><p>Round 1: Tort. Strike* 22.45 dmg; 22.45 ttl</p><p>Round 2: Pier Strike** 23.3 dmg; 45.75 ttl</p><p>Round 3: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 55.15 ttl</p><p>Round 4: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg; 75.25 ttl</p><p>Round 5: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 84.65 ttl</p><p>Round 6: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg;104.75 ttl</p><p>Round 7: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 114.15 ttl </p><p>Round 8: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg; 134.25 ttl DEAD MONGO</p><p>Round 9<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />ier Strike 9.4 dmg; 143.65 ttl</p><p>Round 10: Pier. Strike 20.1 dmg; 163.75 ttl</p><p></p><p>163.75 Total</p><p></p><p></p><p>There you go: Mutilated Mongo with time to take out a few minions. Can anyone beat my time?</p><p></p><p></p><p>You also may want to try the Drow: +2 Dex, +2 Cha and they have a minor that can daze for more Combat adavantage</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amakar, post: 4274900, member: 60900"] [b]Death to Mongo in 8 Rounds![/b] In the true spirit of Min-Maxing, I had to use unconventional options. Off to the MM! Mongo dies in 8 rounds to the horror of : [U]Grunk, the Bugbear Brawny Rogue. [/U] Bugbear Rogue: Build: Str: 16, Dex: 20, Con: 11, Int: 10, Wis: 10, Cha: 8 Class: Rogue Option: Brawny At will Power: Piercing Strike Encounter: Torturous Strike Feat: Warrior of the Wild (Ranger Multiclass for hunter's Quarry) Racial Features ( +2str, +2 dex included), Racial Encounter: Predatory Eye: Add +1d6 extra damage when you have CA) Racial Feature: Oversized: You may use weapons 1 size large than yourself. Weapon: Large Shortsword: 1d8 but still a light blade. [B]Strategy[/B]: Save the encounters for when he's flanking. Otherwise use Piercing Strike Attack Options: [U]Torturous Strike[/U]( vs flanked) +10 vs AC Damage 2d8 + 8 +2d6 +3 +1d6 Roll 1-6 Miss 7-19: 30.5 av damage 20 = 45 damage Round Average : [B]22.45 [/B] [U]Piercing Strike[/U] (Not flanked): +8 vs Ref 1d8+5 +1d6 Rolls 1 to 6: Miss 7-19: 13damage 20: 19 damage Round Average: [B]9.4[/B] [U]Piercing Strike w/ Predatory Eye [/U](vs flanked) +10 vs Ref 1d8+5 +2d6 + 3 + 1d6 + 1d6 Roll 1 to 3: miss 3 to 19: 26.5 damage 20: 40 Damage Round Average: [B]23.2[/B] [U]Piercing Strike[/U] ( with flank) +10 vs Ref 1d8+5 +2d6+3 + 1d6 1 to 3 miss 3 to 19: 23 damage 20: 34 damage Round Average [B]20.1[/B] Mongo Starts Flanked: Round 1: Tort. Strike* 22.45 dmg; 22.45 ttl Round 2: Pier. Strike 9.4 dmg; 31.85 ttl Round 3: Pier Strike** 23.3 dmg; 55.15 ttl Round 4: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 64.55 ttl Round 5: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg; 84.65 ttl Round 6: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 94.05 ttl Round 7: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg;114.15 ttl Round 8: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 123.55 ttl DEAD MONGO Round 9: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg; 143.65 ttl Round 10:Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 153.05 ttl *using hunter's quarry ** Using Predatory Eye 153.05 Average damage If Mongo is unflanked on round one (flank in even round) and Grunk has combat advantage: Round 1: Tort. Strike* 22.45 dmg; 22.45 ttl Round 2: Pier Strike** 23.3 dmg; 45.75 ttl Round 3: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 55.15 ttl Round 4: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg; 75.25 ttl Round 5: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 84.65 ttl Round 6: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg;104.75 ttl Round 7: Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 114.15 ttl Round 8: Pier Strike 20.1 dmg; 134.25 ttl DEAD MONGO Round 9:Pier Strike 9.4 dmg; 143.65 ttl Round 10: Pier. Strike 20.1 dmg; 163.75 ttl 163.75 Total There you go: Mutilated Mongo with time to take out a few minions. Can anyone beat my time? You also may want to try the Drow: +2 Dex, +2 Cha and they have a minor that can daze for more Combat adavantage [/QUOTE]
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