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<blockquote data-quote="robgmsft" data-source="post: 4275431" data-attributes="member: 8729">Talisker Mark IIOK, with Phil500's suggestion and Zaru's bug-fix, here's Talisker Mk II, ringing in at a very respectable 136 and change for a PHB-only striker:Talisker Mk II, Eladrin Brawny Rogue: (STR14, DEX20), Short Sword, Warrior of the Wild, Piercing Strike, Torturous Strike.Piercing Strike with Quarry+8 vs Reflex, 2d6+5 damageMiss on a 1-5 (0 damage * .25 = 0)Hit on a 6-19 (12 damage * .7 = 8.4)Crit on a 20 (14.5 damage * .05 = .725)Total expected damage per round = 9.125Piercing Strike with Sneak Attack, Quarry, and flank+10 vs Reflex, 4d6+7 damageMiss on a 1-3 (0 damage * .15 = 0)Hit on a 4-19 (21 damage * .80 = 16.8)Crit on a 20 (24.5 damage * .05 = 1.225)Total expected damage per round = 18.025Tortuous Strike with quarry+8 vs. AC 3d6+6Miss on a 1-8 (0 damage * .4 = 0)Hit on a 9-19 (16.5 damage * .55 = 9.075)Crit on a 20 (21.5 damage * .05 = 1.075)Total expected damage per round = 10.151 round tortuous strike (10.15)&nbsp; + 4 rounds piercing strike (36.5) + 5 rounds piercing strike w/sneak attack and flank (90.125) = 136.775Now the intersting thing is, even as a min-maxer at heart, I question whether this is the right build - I'm losing 3 pluses to gain 1 on dex, which narrows my options and effectiveness in skill encounters and for a variety of rogue powers...I have to tip my hat to the designers, it's very ahrd to find a broken damaging build in 4E.&nbsp; Guess I'll have to wait until the splat books come out. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="robgmsft, post: 4275431, member: 8729"] [b]Talisker Mark II[/b] OK, with Phil500's suggestion and Zaru's bug-fix, here's Talisker Mk II, ringing in at a very respectable 136 and change for a PHB-only striker: Talisker Mk II, Eladrin Brawny Rogue: (STR14, DEX20), Short Sword, Warrior of the Wild, Piercing Strike, Torturous Strike. Piercing Strike with Quarry +8 vs Reflex, 2d6+5 damage Miss on a 1-5 (0 damage * .25 = 0) Hit on a 6-19 (12 damage * .7 = 8.4) Crit on a 20 (14.5 damage * .05 = .725) Total expected damage per round = 9.125 Piercing Strike with Sneak Attack, Quarry, and flank +10 vs Reflex, 4d6+7 damage Miss on a 1-3 (0 damage * .15 = 0) Hit on a 4-19 (21 damage * .80 = 16.8) Crit on a 20 (24.5 damage * .05 = 1.225) Total expected damage per round = 18.025 Tortuous Strike with quarry +8 vs. AC 3d6+6 Miss on a 1-8 (0 damage * .4 = 0) Hit on a 9-19 (16.5 damage * .55 = 9.075) Crit on a 20 (21.5 damage * .05 = 1.075) Total expected damage per round = 10.15 1 round tortuous strike (10.15) + 4 rounds piercing strike (36.5) + 5 rounds piercing strike w/sneak attack and flank (90.125) = 136.775 Now the intersting thing is, even as a min-maxer at heart, I question whether this is the right build - I'm losing 3 pluses to gain 1 on dex, which narrows my options and effectiveness in skill encounters and for a variety of rogue powers... I have to tip my hat to the designers, it's very ahrd to find a broken damaging build in 4E. Guess I'll have to wait until the splat books come out. ;) [/QUOTE]

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