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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3731379" data-attributes="member: 22779">On the whole Vancian Magic=Forward planning.That's the problem in a nutshell isn't it?&nbsp; How do you plan for the future?&nbsp; How are you possibly going to know before you head into that dungeon that the Macguffin is underwater?&nbsp; ((Yeah, yeah, gather information and all that, but, stick with me here))So many spells are extremely limited in use.&nbsp; Take something like Arcane Lock.&nbsp; Fantastic spell for resting in a dungeon.&nbsp; But, at low levels, are you going to choose Arcane Lock or Invisibility?&nbsp; Which one is more likely to be useful?&nbsp; I'm willing to bet that most wizard players choose invisibility.&nbsp; So, we wind up with a PHB full of spells that almost never see the light of day and a small handful of spells that are used all the time.One eye opening experience for me was back in 2e.&nbsp; I house ruled that clerics could cast any spell from their spheres as needed, up to their daily limit.&nbsp; No memorization.&nbsp; It wound up that 90% of the time, they cast exactly the same spells as if they had memorized, because those were the spells that they most often needed - healing, poison protection, that sort of thing.I'd much rather see a wizard have a spell list that he could choose from as needed so that you don't have the &quot;Hey guys, I don't have that spell today, but, if we rest for a day, I'll have it tomorrow.&quot;&nbsp; That happens an awful lot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3731379, member: 22779"] On the whole Vancian Magic=Forward planning. That's the problem in a nutshell isn't it? How do you plan for the future? How are you possibly going to know before you head into that dungeon that the Macguffin is underwater? ((Yeah, yeah, gather information and all that, but, stick with me here)) So many spells are extremely limited in use. Take something like Arcane Lock. Fantastic spell for resting in a dungeon. But, at low levels, are you going to choose Arcane Lock or Invisibility? Which one is more likely to be useful? I'm willing to bet that most wizard players choose invisibility. So, we wind up with a PHB full of spells that almost never see the light of day and a small handful of spells that are used all the time. One eye opening experience for me was back in 2e. I house ruled that clerics could cast any spell from their spheres as needed, up to their daily limit. No memorization. It wound up that 90% of the time, they cast exactly the same spells as if they had memorized, because those were the spells that they most often needed - healing, poison protection, that sort of thing. I'd much rather see a wizard have a spell list that he could choose from as needed so that you don't have the "Hey guys, I don't have that spell today, but, if we rest for a day, I'll have it tomorrow." That happens an awful lot. [/QUOTE]

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