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<blockquote data-quote="funkysnunkulator" data-source="post: 3733486" data-attributes="member: 54963"><p>not looking foreward to 4th ed.</p><p></p><p>have never really understood why everyone has such a problem with v.3/3.5</p><p></p><p>the words "broken" "munchkin" "balanced" "unbalanced" have become mantra and dogma among those who seem to use them to add validity to thier observations.</p><p></p><p>i.e.: "i will sound so much smarter and so much righter if is say broken and unbalanced"</p><p></p><p>and to this day, have yet to see anything in the game that can't be dealt with as it sits with a little forethought.</p><p></p><p>but ok. lets get "real" here. players want the perfect, irreproachable, unassailable game. fine. dm's want easy to plug in features for thier game. fine.</p><p></p><p>we are about to have it thrust upon us.</p><p></p><p>and it has the capability of killing the biggest fattest most sacred cow of all.</p><p></p><p>a fun game.</p><p></p><p>"so what the hell does this funkysnunkulator person know about MY fun game?"</p><p></p><p>plenty folks. you are here aren't you? part of this game is invention. innovation. and despite what a lot of posters out there (many sites, not picking on ENWorld here) want you to believe, they are in fact having fun with the current system.</p><p></p><p>just look at the huge number of homebrewed spells, prestige classes, races, magic items, monsters, environments, planes, gods and whatnot out there. even some alternate takes on saving throws, grappling, attacks of opportunity, aging, resurrection and everything else. the bottom line is that gamers love this sort of thing.</p><p></p><p>lets be blunt here. who cares if forgotten realms is overpowered? who cares if raistlin is more or less powerful than elminster. who cares if greyhawk is undeveloped, forgotten realms is overdeveloped and dark sun is gone.</p><p></p><p>who cares? apparently a lot of people. but heres the rub folks: if you don't like something change it. you think something is missing add it.</p><p></p><p>NOW.... this has all been debated to death, yes? what has this to do with version 4?</p><p></p><p>everything and nothing.</p><p></p><p>everything: we will all check out version 4 (you know you will, don't deny it, any of you. no gamer can resist the sirens call of a new version. no gamer.)</p><p></p><p>some of us will love it "it does/has everything d&d should do/have"</p><p>some of us will hate it "its missing everything d&d should do/have"</p><p></p><p>give it a chance (though personally, the need for a new version still doesn't exist). likely, this gamer will do what so many others will. just invent what needs to be invented.</p><p></p><p>the only downside is that forums like this where we freely exchanged homebrew stuff will go defunct. v4 content will apparently be controlled by wotc via computer. to bad. all the best developers (and yes gamers, a huge chunk of you are developers, just look at the stuff you have contributed here) have always been here in the forums.</p><p></p><p>guess the biggest thing that this gamer will miss is all the ideas you other gamers come up with.</p><p></p><p>broken, unbalanced, perfectly balanced... a lot of it is really cool stuff.</p><p></p><p>that is the sacred cow at issue with this gamer. the fun of the game. the invention and seeing others inventions. that is a big fat cow. and when it hits the ground, the "thud" will be LOUD.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="funkysnunkulator, post: 3733486, member: 54963"] not looking foreward to 4th ed. have never really understood why everyone has such a problem with v.3/3.5 the words "broken" "munchkin" "balanced" "unbalanced" have become mantra and dogma among those who seem to use them to add validity to thier observations. i.e.: "i will sound so much smarter and so much righter if is say broken and unbalanced" and to this day, have yet to see anything in the game that can't be dealt with as it sits with a little forethought. but ok. lets get "real" here. players want the perfect, irreproachable, unassailable game. fine. dm's want easy to plug in features for thier game. fine. we are about to have it thrust upon us. and it has the capability of killing the biggest fattest most sacred cow of all. a fun game. "so what the hell does this funkysnunkulator person know about MY fun game?" plenty folks. you are here aren't you? part of this game is invention. innovation. and despite what a lot of posters out there (many sites, not picking on ENWorld here) want you to believe, they are in fact having fun with the current system. just look at the huge number of homebrewed spells, prestige classes, races, magic items, monsters, environments, planes, gods and whatnot out there. even some alternate takes on saving throws, grappling, attacks of opportunity, aging, resurrection and everything else. the bottom line is that gamers love this sort of thing. lets be blunt here. who cares if forgotten realms is overpowered? who cares if raistlin is more or less powerful than elminster. who cares if greyhawk is undeveloped, forgotten realms is overdeveloped and dark sun is gone. who cares? apparently a lot of people. but heres the rub folks: if you don't like something change it. you think something is missing add it. NOW.... this has all been debated to death, yes? what has this to do with version 4? everything and nothing. everything: we will all check out version 4 (you know you will, don't deny it, any of you. no gamer can resist the sirens call of a new version. no gamer.) some of us will love it "it does/has everything d&d should do/have" some of us will hate it "its missing everything d&d should do/have" give it a chance (though personally, the need for a new version still doesn't exist). likely, this gamer will do what so many others will. just invent what needs to be invented. the only downside is that forums like this where we freely exchanged homebrew stuff will go defunct. v4 content will apparently be controlled by wotc via computer. to bad. all the best developers (and yes gamers, a huge chunk of you are developers, just look at the stuff you have contributed here) have always been here in the forums. guess the biggest thing that this gamer will miss is all the ideas you other gamers come up with. broken, unbalanced, perfectly balanced... a lot of it is really cool stuff. that is the sacred cow at issue with this gamer. the fun of the game. the invention and seeing others inventions. that is a big fat cow. and when it hits the ground, the "thud" will be LOUD. [/QUOTE]
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