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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 3735402" data-attributes="member: 5202">We just had a DM who said we had just woken up 2 hours ago, we couldn't rest yet.  The DM wasn't exactly out to get us, but he did like making a strong push to get us <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  Heck, he knew I could make nastier bad guys than he did, so he asked me to specifically make some NPC that could counteract some of the party members.  The funny part was that those players he wanted to be able to counteract never actually attacked the specific monster that was their planned nemesis, they were busy fighting one of the others <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Besides all that, who's to say we wouldn't have a random encounter hit us while we were camped out to rest?  I should maybe mention this guys is an old school gamer, Greyhawk fanatic, etc.  Maybe that's part of why I just kinda hate Greyhawk.  That and in high school a friend and I spent a weekend killing off all the gods in Greyhawk heh.  Death's scythe really made some of those fights a bit TOO easy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />As I said previously, many situations if the wizard hadn't cast all his spells, not everyone would have stayed alive.  Sometimes even that doesn't help.  Were these 1E, 2E or 3E modules?  Every single 1E module I have has a ludicrous amount of loot.  Many of them are yes +1 swords and such, but common orc leaders having multiple magic items at level 2 and such really adds up.We're just going to be different here I think. For years, I've always thought it was stupid that you had all this magic but the world wasn't any better.  There were none of the sweeping changes that would happen if you had a society w/this level of magic.  Eberron actually captures it well.  I don't look at magic with contempt.  I've always thought it could be a much better tool than it is.  I still love simply tossing a fireball, or finding a new creative use for a common spell.  Core magic in 3E was beginning to bore the crap out of me tho <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />You just hit the nail on the head for wondering why my group never had too many extra potions or wands and such.  We would make the occasional wand and I know I made a few Int boosting items for my wizard, but the XP costs were lame.</blockquote>

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