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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8120820" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>Just telling someone they were facing a gladiator does not necessarily convey threat level. Even though I DM and use gladiators on a regular basis, without opening up the MM I wouldn't know the CR. I probably would have been more explicit and questioned the player's actions and motivations (because of their alignment and oath) while also making clear this was probably something suicidal.</p><p></p><p>The problem I have is not really with the result. Although there does seem to be a problem with the player, I would have just dealt with it directly. The problem I have is blaming it on the PC being a lawful stupid paladin. Class and alignment have nothing to do with this story. I's not a "good" act <em>and</em> it violates the oath to kindle shelter, preserve and be the light.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>TENETS OF THE ANCIENTS</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The tenets of the Oath of the Ancients have been preserved for uncounted centuries. This oath emphasizes the principles of good above any concerns of law or chaos. Its four central principles are simple.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Kindle the Light.</strong> Through your acts of mercy, kindness, and forgiveness, kindle the light of hope in the world, beating back despair.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Shelter the Light.</strong> Where there is good, beauty, love, and laughter in the world, stand against the wickedness that would swallow it. Where life flourishes, stand against the forces that would render it barren.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Preserve Your Own Light.</strong> Delight in song and laughter, in beauty and art. If you allow the light to die in your own heart, you can’t preserve it in the world.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Be the Light.</strong> Be a glorious beacon for all who live in despair. Let the light of your joy and courage shine forth in all your deeds.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>I have, and likely will kill off a PC at some point in the future because they do something idiotic. But I'll also just break out of the game and make sure they understand the situation because what's clear to me may not be clear to the player. If (as in this case) I think they're violating their oath and alignment I'll explain why. If they still chose to proceed then the dice will fall where they may.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8120820, member: 6801845"] Just telling someone they were facing a gladiator does not necessarily convey threat level. Even though I DM and use gladiators on a regular basis, without opening up the MM I wouldn't know the CR. I probably would have been more explicit and questioned the player's actions and motivations (because of their alignment and oath) while also making clear this was probably something suicidal. The problem I have is not really with the result. Although there does seem to be a problem with the player, I would have just dealt with it directly. The problem I have is blaming it on the PC being a lawful stupid paladin. Class and alignment have nothing to do with this story. I's not a "good" act [I]and[/I] it violates the oath to kindle shelter, preserve and be the light. [INDENT][B]TENETS OF THE ANCIENTS[/B][/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT]The tenets of the Oath of the Ancients have been preserved for uncounted centuries. This oath emphasizes the principles of good above any concerns of law or chaos. Its four central principles are simple.[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][B]Kindle the Light.[/B] Through your acts of mercy, kindness, and forgiveness, kindle the light of hope in the world, beating back despair.[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][B]Shelter the Light.[/B] Where there is good, beauty, love, and laughter in the world, stand against the wickedness that would swallow it. Where life flourishes, stand against the forces that would render it barren.[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][B]Preserve Your Own Light.[/B] Delight in song and laughter, in beauty and art. If you allow the light to die in your own heart, you can’t preserve it in the world.[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][B]Be the Light.[/B] Be a glorious beacon for all who live in despair. Let the light of your joy and courage shine forth in all your deeds.[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] I have, and likely will kill off a PC at some point in the future because they do something idiotic. But I'll also just break out of the game and make sure they understand the situation because what's clear to me may not be clear to the player. If (as in this case) I think they're violating their oath and alignment I'll explain why. If they still chose to proceed then the dice will fall where they may. [/QUOTE]
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