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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grim" data-source="post: 511621" data-attributes="member: 132">what about Vecna Lives?That module was crazy!SpoilersThe first thing that happens is the DM hands out the Circle of Eight as the players characters. They are in "a tomb." Then Vecna shows up and kills them all. Mordekinien, Bigby, ALLL OFFF THEEEEMMMM!!!! His tactics are as follows: First round: gain innitiative (the DM is encouraged to cheat here). Cast timestop. Use his massive strenth to snap six of the character's necks (two a round). Survive whatever the remaining two characters do the next round (there are gargoyles attacking that round too...) Round Two. Cast cone of Cold three times (quickened spell, normal spell, hasted action) All dead. So then the players roll up each of the Co8's "helpers," which are whatever the players want.The characters then spend days and days hunting down thier masters. And Divinations NO LONGER FUNCTION. Fun. Then when tehy find him finally, Venca runs away. He goes to Sigil, and when there, the only way to kill him is to do the following:If you come within thirty feet of him, he can kill you as a free action. Unless he doesnt detect you. And he can detect anyone within a mile.The only way to not be detected is to be attached to one of his rellics (the hand or eye). The only way to get those is to kill off the highest level memebers of his cult, and take them from thier cold dead bodies. And you have to find them first. They grant immunity from Vecna's instant locator, but he can still see you, even if he cant instantly detect you. And he can still hurt youAnd the only thing that prevents against his instant death attack is the sword of Kas, which you have to get from Kas himself, who doesnt want to give it away. So you have to sneak through ravenloft, sneak through Kas's domain, Sneak into his mantion, and steal it from his book room (where it is carefully hidden and well, well guarded.But if you bring the sword of Kas near vecna, he can ALWAYS detect exactly where it is, so he instantly see's you. The only way to kill him is to have one character get the sword of kas, and one of venca's relics, and then fight him in single combat. And he is DARN hard to kill. He has over 1000 hit points. Not good...Now thats a party killer...</blockquote>

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