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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OldSkoolRPG" data-source="post: 6795836" data-attributes="member: 6809897">The players were aware of the time frame, the party is not.  I don't know what game you are playing but in the D&D world there is never a time in the underdark that danger is no emminent.  Even above ground in wilderness settings it is far different than the real world.  When I go backpacking, even in bear country, I don't generally fear that a grizzly is going to walk in and attack me in camp.  In D&D that is a very real possibility every single evening.  Then you are playing a selfish PC who cares more about their own survival regardless of the consequences to others. Which is valid but you can't say someone playing a PC with a different point of view is incorrect or inherently evil. That is your subjective standard not an objective one.Given that returning to camp would require the time it would take for Laura to somehow get him up cliffs, across ravines spanned only by ropes, through small tunnels filled with water with limited breathing space all while never knowing if the cultists were right around the corner.  Yes very possibly he would choose to have her go on and give the party the best possible chance of survival.  I would make that decision myself.See you are arguing that if there is any chance at all that they can get everyone, including the incapacitated party member out, they are morally obligated to do so. What if there is only a 1% that everyone makes it back but a 99% that two party members will die in a manner that would have otherwise been avoided without the incapacitated party member.  So your argument is that it would still be unjustifiable homicide and evil NOT to take the huge risk of killing two people on the long shot chance that one could be saved.The fact is since the party can't possibly be expected to know the percentages they are going to have to go on their judgement of the dangers and difficulties that are presented but we could not possibly make an objective judgment that their decided course of action is objectively good or evil.</blockquote>

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