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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 3614591" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p>Thank you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> There's a lot of interesting and cool stuff in Greyhawk.</p><p></p><p> In the Canon, Medegia and Osson's forces never considered an alliance. But it could have happened in a What If scenario, yes.</p><p></p><p> You cited high level clerics of good summoning Celestials to fight for Medegia. A good idea.</p><p> But now the conundrum of D&D comes into play.</p><p> Those clerics must *reach* high level in order to be *able* to summon Celestials.</p><p> Those clerics, being good, are reluctant to kill. Thus they gain experience more slowly than ... than the *evil* clerics who actively kill and more quickly reach the levels needed to summon outsiders, and then the evil clerics summon the Fiends.</p><p> If it's a race to high level, my side to summon Celestials and your side to summon Fiends, and you have the faster car (because you're willing to kill, I'm reluctant to, and killing nets you experience and thus levels) then I'm out of luck.</p><p></p><p> Medegia probably attempted to gain neighboring aid.</p><p> But all the neighboring countries were either uninterested, or involved in wars of their own and unable to send help. Poor Medegia was completely on it's own.</p><p></p><p> Medegia could not buy off Ivid's army. This army was too eager for plunder: Medegian plunder. No amount of bribery would work when the army could have *all* the wealth of Medegia for the taking, once Medegia was leveled.</p><p> A sad state of affairs, but there it was.</p><p> </p><p> In the Canon, Medegia had no vital resources that would have been destroyed by the invasion. Or if there were, Ivid was so insane and vengeful he did not care. He was obsessed with revenge for Medegia's supposed 'rebellion' against him (the Holy Censor rebelled, but the common people did not) and sought only retaliation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 3614591, member: 2020"] Thank you. :) There's a lot of interesting and cool stuff in Greyhawk. In the Canon, Medegia and Osson's forces never considered an alliance. But it could have happened in a What If scenario, yes. You cited high level clerics of good summoning Celestials to fight for Medegia. A good idea. But now the conundrum of D&D comes into play. Those clerics must *reach* high level in order to be *able* to summon Celestials. Those clerics, being good, are reluctant to kill. Thus they gain experience more slowly than ... than the *evil* clerics who actively kill and more quickly reach the levels needed to summon outsiders, and then the evil clerics summon the Fiends. If it's a race to high level, my side to summon Celestials and your side to summon Fiends, and you have the faster car (because you're willing to kill, I'm reluctant to, and killing nets you experience and thus levels) then I'm out of luck. Medegia probably attempted to gain neighboring aid. But all the neighboring countries were either uninterested, or involved in wars of their own and unable to send help. Poor Medegia was completely on it's own. Medegia could not buy off Ivid's army. This army was too eager for plunder: Medegian plunder. No amount of bribery would work when the army could have *all* the wealth of Medegia for the taking, once Medegia was leveled. A sad state of affairs, but there it was. In the Canon, Medegia had no vital resources that would have been destroyed by the invasion. Or if there were, Ivid was so insane and vengeful he did not care. He was obsessed with revenge for Medegia's supposed 'rebellion' against him (the Holy Censor rebelled, but the common people did not) and sought only retaliation. [/QUOTE]
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