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<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 3619170" data-attributes="member: 25619">Well, they could just ignore From the As*ses, since it's crap anyhow.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />So true.&nbsp; FtA was not well based on the pre-existing Greyhawk reality and did not take into account the tons of adventures scooting around that world.&nbsp; Instead, the changes it brought are a series of ad hoc deus ex machina changes made only because they seems kewl.&nbsp; Compare the Greyhawk boxed set cover with the FtA boxed set cover: undead riders on undead horses is wai kewler than knights on chargers.If PC's had been allowed to intervene in these world changing re-writes, the various ways they could have saved Medegia (if anyone cared to):-- Return to the Isle of the Apes, get the Crook of Rao, banish the Deux Ex Machina demon hordes from the armies of Iuz and Ivid-- Assassinate or &quot;save&quot; Ivid-- Cause a civil war between Rauxes, Ahlissa, the North Kingdom, and Rel Astra.&nbsp; Not too hard, it would seem.-- Bring Medegia into alliance with:&nbsp; --- The Iron League.&nbsp; Rebels against the crown of the Great Kingdom.&nbsp; This probably wouldn't have worked out well.&nbsp; --- Almor and Nyrond.&nbsp; Enemies of the Great Kingdom, just outside its borders.&nbsp; --- Rel Astra.&nbsp; Nobody ever messes with Rel Astra.&nbsp; --- The Scarlet Brotherhood &amp; the Lordship of the Isles.&nbsp; This could be a very bad idea, but it sounds far more interesting than what happened in FtA.&nbsp; And if you think this sort of thing never happens, nice little social democratic Finland allied with the Nazis to hold off the Soviets in WWII.&nbsp; If you think that's just an odd example of strange bedfellows, the Nazis and Nationalist Chinese were pals (the German general in charge of the Netherlands during the war trained the KMT army), until the Nazis and Imperial Japan allied.&nbsp; Evil is often flexible.--&nbsp; Run away!&nbsp; Lead the people into the Vast Swamp and worship the lich there.&nbsp; In a fight of Acererak versus Ivid, nobody would bet on boring Ivid.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 3619170, member: 25619"] Well, they could just ignore From the As*ses, since it's crap anyhow. :p So true. FtA was not well based on the pre-existing Greyhawk reality and did not take into account the tons of adventures scooting around that world. Instead, the changes it brought are a series of ad hoc deus ex machina changes made only because they seems kewl. Compare the Greyhawk boxed set cover with the FtA boxed set cover: undead riders on undead horses is wai kewler than knights on chargers. If PC's had been allowed to intervene in these world changing re-writes, the various ways they could have saved Medegia (if anyone cared to): -- Return to the Isle of the Apes, get the Crook of Rao, banish the Deux Ex Machina demon hordes from the armies of Iuz and Ivid -- Assassinate or "save" Ivid -- Cause a civil war between Rauxes, Ahlissa, the North Kingdom, and Rel Astra. Not too hard, it would seem. -- Bring Medegia into alliance with: --- The Iron League. Rebels against the crown of the Great Kingdom. This probably wouldn't have worked out well. --- Almor and Nyrond. Enemies of the Great Kingdom, just outside its borders. --- Rel Astra. Nobody ever messes with Rel Astra. --- The Scarlet Brotherhood & the Lordship of the Isles. This could be a very bad idea, but it sounds far more interesting than what happened in FtA. And if you think this sort of thing never happens, nice little social democratic Finland allied with the Nazis to hold off the Soviets in WWII. If you think that's just an odd example of strange bedfellows, the Nazis and Nationalist Chinese were pals (the German general in charge of the Netherlands during the war trained the KMT army), until the Nazis and Imperial Japan allied. Evil is often flexible. -- Run away! Lead the people into the Vast Swamp and worship the lich there. In a fight of Acererak versus Ivid, nobody would bet on boring Ivid. [/QUOTE]

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