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<blockquote data-quote="Doug McCrae" data-source="post: 7743413" data-attributes="member: 21169"><p>[MENTION=6777843]Eirikrautha[/MENTION] The following quotes are from the 1e DMG.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Good is best defined as whatever brings the most benefit to the greater number of decent, thinking creatures and the least woe to the rest.</p><p></p><p>This is the 19th century idea of utilitarianism.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">NEUTRAL EVIL: Similar to the neutral good alignment, that of neutral evil holds that neither groups nor individuals have great meaning. This ethos holds that seeking to promote weal for all actually brings woe to the truly deserving. Natural forces which are meant to cull out the weak and stupid are artificially suppressed by so-called good, and the fittest are wrongfully held back, so whatever means are expedient can be used by the powerful to gain and maintain their dominance, without concern for anything.</p><p></p><p>Social Darwinism, another 19th century notion.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Good And Evil: Basically stated, the tenets of good are human rights, or in the case of AD&D, creature rights. Each creature is entitled to life, relative freedom, and the prospect of happiness. Cruelty and suffering are undesirable. Evil, on the other hand, does not concern itself with rights or happiness; purpose is the determinant.</p><p></p><p>Paraphrasing the US Declaration of Independence.</p><p></p><p>According to the 1e PHB:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">If they ever knowingly perform an act which is chaotic in nature, they must seek a high level (7th or above) cleric of lawful good alignment, confess their sin, and do penance as prescribed by the cleric. If a paladin should ever knowingly and willingly perform an evil act, he or she loses the status of paladinhood immediately and irrevocably.</p><p></p><p>Note that this doesn't say anything about the specific god the cleric worships which suggests that alignment is the most important factor here, not divine will.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Doug McCrae, post: 7743413, member: 21169"] [MENTION=6777843]Eirikrautha[/MENTION] The following quotes are from the 1e DMG. [indent]Good is best defined as whatever brings the most benefit to the greater number of decent, thinking creatures and the least woe to the rest.[/indent] This is the 19th century idea of utilitarianism. [indent]NEUTRAL EVIL: Similar to the neutral good alignment, that of neutral evil holds that neither groups nor individuals have great meaning. This ethos holds that seeking to promote weal for all actually brings woe to the truly deserving. Natural forces which are meant to cull out the weak and stupid are artificially suppressed by so-called good, and the fittest are wrongfully held back, so whatever means are expedient can be used by the powerful to gain and maintain their dominance, without concern for anything.[/indent] Social Darwinism, another 19th century notion. [indent]Good And Evil: Basically stated, the tenets of good are human rights, or in the case of AD&D, creature rights. Each creature is entitled to life, relative freedom, and the prospect of happiness. Cruelty and suffering are undesirable. Evil, on the other hand, does not concern itself with rights or happiness; purpose is the determinant.[/indent] Paraphrasing the US Declaration of Independence. According to the 1e PHB: [indent]If they ever knowingly perform an act which is chaotic in nature, they must seek a high level (7th or above) cleric of lawful good alignment, confess their sin, and do penance as prescribed by the cleric. If a paladin should ever knowingly and willingly perform an evil act, he or she loses the status of paladinhood immediately and irrevocably.[/indent] Note that this doesn't say anything about the specific god the cleric worships which suggests that alignment is the most important factor here, not divine will. [/QUOTE]
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