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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 7743638" data-attributes="member: 85555">I don't want to split hairs over this. My point was it isn't simply 'incomprehensible alien evil' and 'mundane human evil'. We could debate what Dracula is all day. Despite his past though, he is a vampire who must drink human blood to survive. To me that is more than just human evil, that is a primordial type of evil. I think both the monster and Doctor Frankenstein are evil. The monster is literally an animated creature made from human corpses and it is so filled with resentment and anger it kills a child. That to me, is pretty evil. It is more complex than a goblin for sure, and one of the cool things about it is how sympathetic the creature is in the book. But if killing a child isn't evil, nothing is.But there are plenty of other examples in movies. Someone mentioned Xenomorphs. They are aliens but not in comprehensive. We understand their motivations and such. I think that is a fairly good comparison to goblins. They are not cosmic evil but they occupy a very similar space in the setting that goblins do in some fantasy worlds.I suppose Zombies would be another example of something that exists in the setting to be killed. They are not a separate species or anything. But the effect is characters mow down endless hordes of them. And while zombies often can carry all kinds of meaning, they don't have to. They can just be undead hordes that kill you if you don't kill them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 7743638, member: 85555"] I don't want to split hairs over this. My point was it isn't simply 'incomprehensible alien evil' and 'mundane human evil'. We could debate what Dracula is all day. Despite his past though, he is a vampire who must drink human blood to survive. To me that is more than just human evil, that is a primordial type of evil. I think both the monster and Doctor Frankenstein are evil. The monster is literally an animated creature made from human corpses and it is so filled with resentment and anger it kills a child. That to me, is pretty evil. It is more complex than a goblin for sure, and one of the cool things about it is how sympathetic the creature is in the book. But if killing a child isn't evil, nothing is. But there are plenty of other examples in movies. Someone mentioned Xenomorphs. They are aliens but not in comprehensive. We understand their motivations and such. I think that is a fairly good comparison to goblins. They are not cosmic evil but they occupy a very similar space in the setting that goblins do in some fantasy worlds. I suppose Zombies would be another example of something that exists in the setting to be killed. They are not a separate species or anything. But the effect is characters mow down endless hordes of them. And while zombies often can carry all kinds of meaning, they don't have to. They can just be undead hordes that kill you if you don't kill them. [/QUOTE]

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