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Message: <blockquote data-quote="spectre72" data-source="post: 1712834" data-attributes="member: 18885">Earlier I was not commenting on dragging combat out against an unconscious troll, and if there are no standing opponents we will usually just tell the GM we are building a BBQ and we will have someone keep whacking the troll to keep it unconscious until the fire is ready <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I was giving our interpritation of the rules once we had looked at the FAQ, and how we play it if in the middle of combat.The confusion comes from the computer game TOEE which allows you to CDG trolls, but I think that was included to give a way to kill trolls with a limited amount of fire/acid and weapons that do fire damage.  So they gave a way around not being able to do fire damage in the game.The key to the reading of the CDG rules with the FAQ is that acording to the SRD/rules subdual damage is not "Real Damage".Since you do no real damage there is no CDG because damaging your oponent is a requirement for the save.So if the combat is over we gloss over the killing portion, but during combat we are always aware that unless we keep beating on the troll he will get back up and rip our arms off <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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