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<blockquote data-quote="Drakron" data-source="post: 813273" data-attributes="member: 10830"><p>No, its a change to the game rules ... not the creature stats.</p><p></p><p>The new 3.5 system makes DR being some what a diferent beast, DR appears to be altered and someone with a +1 weapon will inflict less damage that someone with a silver weapon but its possible that someone with a +2 or +3 weapon will inflict full damage.</p><p></p><p>If it was a wererat that actually had DR 10/+2 would be a diferent matter (of course that a wererat with that DR would be at a diferent CR that one with 15/silver and there sould be care that players dont face creatures that could wipe the floor with their characters) since it would covered by the rules.</p><p></p><p>DR is a 3rd ed thing, imagine that the DM decides to use the 2nd ed AD&D mechanic of creatures being immune to damage od weapons that were not of a certain enchamtement value and does not inform the players of that change.</p><p></p><p>Now imagine that the party happens to fight a werewolf and for some twist of fate they only have regular masterwork stuff (and no spells like magic weapon) and naturaly they get killed because they cannot inflict a single point of damage to it (well the spellcasters could but for argument sake lets presume they had only buff spells).</p><p></p><p>In 2nd ed we seen the Kobolts->Goblins->Orcs problem since when players reach certain levels some monsters simply vanished from combat, 3rd ed altered that by making a standerized CR system with templates and creature type progression, a great tool for making all monsters a threat to the PCs reguadless of their level without the whole "guess work" from previous editions.</p><p></p><p>DMs can change things but altering rules sould always be something to inform the players of such drastic alterations (since its not only one creature that is affected during one encounter, its all creatures during all encounters) since no player sign on to be object of DM rules experimentations without fair warning.</p><p></p><p>And worst is the DM acusing the player of "cheating" and "meta-knowledge" when the player simply pointed out that his character was using a weapon under the effects of the "Magic weapon" spell instead of saying to the player "I know, I am now using a diferent DR system that works diferently".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Drakron, post: 813273, member: 10830"] No, its a change to the game rules ... not the creature stats. The new 3.5 system makes DR being some what a diferent beast, DR appears to be altered and someone with a +1 weapon will inflict less damage that someone with a silver weapon but its possible that someone with a +2 or +3 weapon will inflict full damage. If it was a wererat that actually had DR 10/+2 would be a diferent matter (of course that a wererat with that DR would be at a diferent CR that one with 15/silver and there sould be care that players dont face creatures that could wipe the floor with their characters) since it would covered by the rules. DR is a 3rd ed thing, imagine that the DM decides to use the 2nd ed AD&D mechanic of creatures being immune to damage od weapons that were not of a certain enchamtement value and does not inform the players of that change. Now imagine that the party happens to fight a werewolf and for some twist of fate they only have regular masterwork stuff (and no spells like magic weapon) and naturaly they get killed because they cannot inflict a single point of damage to it (well the spellcasters could but for argument sake lets presume they had only buff spells). In 2nd ed we seen the Kobolts->Goblins->Orcs problem since when players reach certain levels some monsters simply vanished from combat, 3rd ed altered that by making a standerized CR system with templates and creature type progression, a great tool for making all monsters a threat to the PCs reguadless of their level without the whole "guess work" from previous editions. DMs can change things but altering rules sould always be something to inform the players of such drastic alterations (since its not only one creature that is affected during one encounter, its all creatures during all encounters) since no player sign on to be object of DM rules experimentations without fair warning. And worst is the DM acusing the player of "cheating" and "meta-knowledge" when the player simply pointed out that his character was using a weapon under the effects of the "Magic weapon" spell instead of saying to the player "I know, I am now using a diferent DR system that works diferently". [/QUOTE]
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