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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zhure" data-source="post: 816851" data-attributes="member: 308">No, I'm not, I just disagree.I don't know if Doc said that or even if he agrees with it. I'm not arguing for or against anyone. I do think that monsters are the DM's perogative (save for Summoned ones). If the DM changes the rules for monsters, then bully for him. If the DM changes DR for all the monsters or just one, it's the same to me either way, since they're the DM's critters.Yup, and that's all metagaming that is on the PC's character sheets. If the character design is metagame related ("I hunt undead") and the PC has metagame related abilites ("I have KN: Undead and Undead as a Favored Enemy") then changes to common undead, even blanket, sweeping changes like DR, should be made known to the PC.Nope, I'd be curious why such a rule was implemented and ask after the session because it's the kind of thing my character should know in advance. If I find the rule illogical then I'll make my protest briefly and with dignity and then either vote with my feet or stay in the game. That's the true player-DM contract. I'd also like to point out that ranged touch attacks and Point Blank Shot are both clearly spelled out in the PHB, so this example really has nothing to do with DR, monsters, or the price of ch'a in China.I don't blame you. But changing the DR to something akin to what it appears 3.5e will have isn't a dumb change. IMO.I was in a horrific game with lots of metagaming on the part of the DM. He changed specific rules about the characters abilities, training, feats (ok, it wasn't a D&D game, but I'm trying to be topical). He made those changes retroactively but wouldn't let the PCs change out their abilities or tell them in advance the changes were going into effect. He also used out of game conversations to alter in-game reactions of NPCs who would've had no way of knowing that information (and by out-of-game, I mean not even during the game session). I voted with my feet and won't let him DM for me anymore.However, had he done the right thing and made the changes gradually and graciously and let the PCs adjust their abilites to reflect the rules changes, then it would've been fine (except the out-of-game stuff, which really torqued me off).Gregedit- they're their there. Dangit</blockquote>

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