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<blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 817175" data-attributes="member: 1279">Umm . . . huh? They can control how their character progresses just fine, for the most part. (Though I'm never going to let a 13-year old orc barbarian take a level of wizard out of nowhere.) They can plot plot plot away, but that doesn't mean I have to give them specific and exact spell and ability listings for every level. If you want to be a sorcerer, be a sorcerer. A spell or two might get nerfed along the way -- deal. It's not as though the Entire Character Concept is going to be thrown out the window because teleport or poly self works differently. In my experience, people who plot out feat and spell chains 19 levels in advance do so in order to powergame to absolute and total maximum effectiveness, NOT to create an interesting character to play. And no, no one in my campaign has killed themselves off to play something else <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. Though there is a goblin bard who has been looking a tad suicidal lately. Not because of any house-rules, but because, damn, bards can be lame sometimes <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Forrester, post: 817175, member: 1279"] Umm . . . huh? They can control how their character progresses just fine, for the most part. (Though I'm never going to let a 13-year old orc barbarian take a level of wizard out of nowhere.) They can plot plot plot away, but that doesn't mean I have to give them specific and exact spell and ability listings for every level. If you want to be a sorcerer, be a sorcerer. A spell or two might get nerfed along the way -- deal. It's not as though the Entire Character Concept is going to be thrown out the window because teleport or poly self works differently. In my experience, people who plot out feat and spell chains 19 levels in advance do so in order to powergame to absolute and total maximum effectiveness, NOT to create an interesting character to play. And no, no one in my campaign has killed themselves off to play something else :). Though there is a goblin bard who has been looking a tad suicidal lately. Not because of any house-rules, but because, damn, bards can be lame sometimes :D. [/QUOTE]

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