Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Kinda changing rules without telling players.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 817494" data-attributes="member: 1279"><p>Yes, I suppose if you wanted to be the Best Damn Teleporter in the realm, you'd be out of luck <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. But that's a pretty silly example. </p><p></p><p>I mean, obviously, if there's something that's completely Core to a concept, I'm going to let them know any changes ahead of time. Case in point: a player in my campaign has been aiming at Shadowdancer since 2nd level. And she's roleplayed her advancement towards Shadowdancer exceptionally well. I told her right off the bat that I had heard Hide in Plain Sight was cheaty, but that I probably wouldn't nerf it, and I told her a couple levels ago (she JUST hit dancer this level) that I would keep it a move-equivalent. </p><p></p><p>I've also said that I expect that except for a possible detour for one level, she'd *stay* shadowdancer, and not just grab Hide in Plain Sight and move on to something else in a munchkin-like fashion. She agreed, though she pointed out the abilities of a Shadowdancer are a little lame after that first level of Prc <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. After which I said I agreed, and we'll nerf those when we come to them . . . </p><p></p><p>So there you go. Lots of room for nerfing at the last second, BUT no surprises that invalidate a character concept that a player has had for awhile. I think that's the perfect balance -- you can help a player create an interesting character without giving them official spell and ability lists seven levels ahead of time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Forrester, post: 817494, member: 1279"] Yes, I suppose if you wanted to be the Best Damn Teleporter in the realm, you'd be out of luck :). But that's a pretty silly example. I mean, obviously, if there's something that's completely Core to a concept, I'm going to let them know any changes ahead of time. Case in point: a player in my campaign has been aiming at Shadowdancer since 2nd level. And she's roleplayed her advancement towards Shadowdancer exceptionally well. I told her right off the bat that I had heard Hide in Plain Sight was cheaty, but that I probably wouldn't nerf it, and I told her a couple levels ago (she JUST hit dancer this level) that I would keep it a move-equivalent. I've also said that I expect that except for a possible detour for one level, she'd *stay* shadowdancer, and not just grab Hide in Plain Sight and move on to something else in a munchkin-like fashion. She agreed, though she pointed out the abilities of a Shadowdancer are a little lame after that first level of Prc :). After which I said I agreed, and we'll nerf those when we come to them . . . So there you go. Lots of room for nerfing at the last second, BUT no surprises that invalidate a character concept that a player has had for awhile. I think that's the perfect balance -- you can help a player create an interesting character without giving them official spell and ability lists seven levels ahead of time. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Kinda changing rules without telling players.
Top
