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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DungeonMaster" data-source="post: 2332166" data-attributes="member: 27431">Yup! HD is not always indicative of power and there are spells like "circle of death" that should still be occasionally useful at higher levels. Some of the biggest HD monsters in the game - collosal vermin - are not that tough for high level characters to defeat. They might hit you with +59 to hit and have tons of hit points and sky high saves but in the end, they're just a big bug that can't fly, teleport or even throw a rock at a flying PC. PCs can usually outsmart it.  Remember the maralith will *cheat* too. If if sees you're able to grapple it then it's going to polymorph itself into a storm giant or teleport away. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Jai's previous barbarian charged a balor and got a taste of unholy aura - it's not fun. There's an oriental adventures feat called "earth's embrace" which you should check out though that might be hard to track down. It doesn't knock them unconcious like the crazy maralith ability though. Lol! of course not! You need pretty decent magic and much more wealth and abilities to take one down "without death of a PC" (which would means its CR is correct). As it stands the thing can just project it's image outside of an area of darkness and spread cloudkills, curses, chaos hammers and unholy blights then teleport and do the same from a distance again and again. You could probably kill one at this level if you knew it was coming and had time to prepare dimensional anchors, true seeing and discern location (locate creature is fooled by polymorph). If you had advantageous terrain then you might only lose ~ 1 PC.</blockquote>

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