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<blockquote data-quote="Kinger" data-source="post: 2339270" data-attributes="member: 31885">Haven't seen the Eberron abuse myself (my campaign only just started tonight, and they're only level 1), but I suspect you mean the Artificer using various Metamagic feats and the ability Metamagic Spelltrigger to deal thousands of points of damage in a round or something. I've seen one idea involving boosting one's caster level to the high 90's, and I don't think it actually works. It relies on vague wording of the Use Magic Device skill, no official rulings/clarification, and a healthy dose of the Air Bud principle (ie: It doesn't say you can't!).&nbsp;I say it still can't beat Spellfire or Circle Magic. &nbsp;But we'll see how it goes. There ARE some nice new rules for things. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;Near-finalized feat list:1. Improved Grapple (OA)Human. Earth's Embrace3. Choke Hold6. Power Attack9. Flying Kick12. &quot;Grapple Mastery&quot;&nbsp;There we go. ph34r my l33t gr4pp1in9 ski11z!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kinger, post: 2339270, member: 31885"] Haven't seen the Eberron abuse myself (my campaign only just started tonight, and they're only level 1), but I suspect you mean the Artificer using various Metamagic feats and the ability Metamagic Spelltrigger to deal thousands of points of damage in a round or something. I've seen one idea involving boosting one's caster level to the high 90's, and I don't think it actually works. It relies on vague wording of the Use Magic Device skill, no official rulings/clarification, and a healthy dose of the Air Bud principle (ie: It doesn't say you can't!). I say it still can't beat Spellfire or Circle Magic. But we'll see how it goes. There ARE some nice new rules for things. :) Near-finalized feat list: 1. Improved Grapple (OA) Human. Earth's Embrace 3. Choke Hold 6. Power Attack 9. Flying Kick 12. "Grapple Mastery" There we go. ph34r my l33t gr4pp1in9 ski11z! [/QUOTE]

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