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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DungeonMaster" data-source="post: 2358400" data-attributes="member: 27431">Happy Birthday Jason! Don't feel bad, Vera needs to remind me when my own birthday is (I check my wallet) let alone hers.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh    :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> Speaking of special events I'm hoping of having a BBQ of sorts before the first campaign game at the beginning of term. I've re-read the lift ability of the creature and my conclusion is it would require a will-save for it to use it on a target (sorry Ivana... we'll just say you failed...). I think I was confused because I thought all it needed to succeed was a grapple check but it is a "spell like" ability and so should reference the spell in all ways. It also has a caster level so SR would work too. Here's the wording of it: As a free action, a crimson death can telekinetically life another creature weighing up to 300 pounds. This ability works like a telekinesis spell (sustained force version, caster level 12th), except that it works only on an opponent already seized by a tendril of the crimson death. Against a struggling opponent, use of this ability requires a successful grapple check (grapple bonus +11).I must have read only the last sentance and thought that only the grapple was requires as there's no save DC listed. I'll peg the DC as per all spell-likes at 17 = 10+5(spell level) +2(charisma). However as I re-read it the only way of escaping from it is to weigh more than 300 lbs. once the save is failed.</blockquote>

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