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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 7946099" data-attributes="member: 3400">While there may be some similarity, I definitely saw (and see) the kits as distinct from sub-classes. They asserted a step from the weird sub-class association baggage. The old hierarchy could be useful - at least for pointing out which combat or saving throw table you used - but for the most part was unnecessary. The paladin shift from fighter sub-class to cavalier sub-class in Unearthed Arcana back in 1e also kind of indicated that the whole class/sub-class thing was poorly conceived. Why wasn't the cavalier also a sub-class of fighter? No idea. But moving the paladin over sure gave it a boost. It was a mess. Second edition was right to start moving away from that.</blockquote>