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<blockquote data-quote="Ivocles" data-source="post: 7006610" data-attributes="member: 6872409">Hello Manduck,I feel that the paladin is a very different beast than the knight. The Paladin is has to follow its tenets, uses magic, and channels the power of his god to smite his opponents. Also i feel that home brewing abilities compared to the paladin's power level would be blasted into the ground, paladin is pretty insane.Some people like to play fantastical but still nonmagical classes.You could make a fighter with high charisma, protection fighting style and defender, but it wouldn't be a very sticky tank. A fighter with his extra attacks will always be a better attacker than a defender. The knight could lock down multiple opponents at once and be a more dedicated support class (if going order of the shield) i'm playing a purple dragon knight (protection fighting style), but it still doesn't quite fit the bill i feel.The Great cleave feature is deliberately similar to the great weapon master feat. A dedicated great weapon knight could reduce an opponent to 0hp or crit, get his free attack with Great Cleave, and use his bonus action for another attack with GWM or use its bonus action to activate a free fighting challenge.The niche would beOrder of the shield: Dedicated defender/Support (however nothing stops you from playing a 2-handed OotS knight)Order of the sword: Defender/Striker (likewise, you could play a two handed or Sword and board OotS knight)Order of the gilded spurs: Dedicated mounted combat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivocles, post: 7006610, member: 6872409"] Hello Manduck, I feel that the paladin is a very different beast than the knight. The Paladin is has to follow its tenets, uses magic, and channels the power of his god to smite his opponents. Also i feel that home brewing abilities compared to the paladin's power level would be blasted into the ground, paladin is pretty insane. Some people like to play fantastical but still nonmagical classes. You could make a fighter with high charisma, protection fighting style and defender, but it wouldn't be a very sticky tank. A fighter with his extra attacks will always be a better attacker than a defender. The knight could lock down multiple opponents at once and be a more dedicated support class (if going order of the shield) i'm playing a purple dragon knight (protection fighting style), but it still doesn't quite fit the bill i feel. The Great cleave feature is deliberately similar to the great weapon master feat. A dedicated great weapon knight could reduce an opponent to 0hp or crit, get his free attack with Great Cleave, and use his bonus action for another attack with GWM or use its bonus action to activate a free fighting challenge. The niche would be Order of the shield: Dedicated defender/Support (however nothing stops you from playing a 2-handed OotS knight) Order of the sword: Defender/Striker (likewise, you could play a two handed or Sword and board OotS knight) Order of the gilded spurs: Dedicated mounted combat. [/QUOTE]

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