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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 6009342" data-attributes="member: 19675">Again, this is because they got cute with language instead of simply assigning actual weapon sizes measured in feet.&nbsp; You have to look at a whole bunch of rules before it all comes together.(emphasis mine)And<a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/movementPositionAndDistance.htm#bigandLittleCreaturesInCombat" target="_blank">And this chart.</a>The base rules of the game are silent on oversized reach weapons since, by rule, the only way you could wield them are Powerful Build &amp; Monkey Grip- both from later additions to the rules, or by being increased to appropriate size.So we can see:1) the rules assume a Medium sized human is 6' tall, on average.2) A standard Reach weapon for a human is a 2 handed weapon which is the same size as a Medium creature.&nbsp; This means it is between 4'-8' long, on average.&nbsp; Let's call it 6'.3) the language of the reach weapons rules include the language of &quot;appropriate size&quot; (which I bolded), albeit only (potentially confusingly) in regards to Large creatures.&nbsp; Some have taken this to mean hat the &quot;appropriate size&quot; language applies only to Large creatures.&nbsp; (Considering the game contemplated 9 size categories, claiming this rule only applies to size L creatures is tortured logic at best.)So we have a &quot;typical&quot; 6' tall human with a standard 6' long, nonmagical polearm having his reach &quot;doubled&quot; to a reach total of 10'.&nbsp; It makes no sense, then, that the same polearm in the hands of a human whose personal reach has been increased to 15' would have his reach &quot;doubled&quot; to 30'.They could have saved a lot of ink, pages of paper &amp; confusion if the weapons charts simply had a weapon size expressed in feet &amp; inches.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 6009342, member: 19675"] Again, this is because they got cute with language instead of simply assigning actual weapon sizes measured in feet. You have to look at a whole bunch of rules before it all comes together. (emphasis mine) And [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/movementPositionAndDistance.htm#bigandLittleCreaturesInCombat"]And this chart.[/URL] The base rules of the game are silent on oversized reach weapons since, by rule, the only way you could wield them are Powerful Build & Monkey Grip- both from later additions to the rules, or by being increased to appropriate size. So we can see: 1) the rules assume a Medium sized human is 6' tall, on average. 2) A standard Reach weapon for a human is a 2 handed weapon which is the same size as a Medium creature. This means it is between 4'-8' long, on average. Let's call it 6'. 3) the language of the reach weapons rules include the language of "appropriate size" (which I bolded), albeit only (potentially confusingly) in regards to Large creatures. Some have taken this to mean hat the "appropriate size" language applies only to Large creatures. (Considering the game contemplated 9 size categories, claiming this rule only applies to size L creatures is tortured logic at best.) So we have a "typical" 6' tall human with a standard 6' long, nonmagical polearm having his reach "doubled" to a reach total of 10'. It makes no sense, then, that the same polearm in the hands of a human whose personal reach has been increased to 15' would have his reach "doubled" to 30'. They could have saved a lot of ink, pages of paper & confusion if the weapons charts simply had a weapon size expressed in feet & inches. [/QUOTE]

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