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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasin" data-source="post: 2394705" data-attributes="member: 7531">It's a limiting factor, but not a balancing factor.It will limit the number of knights phantom, since some warrior-mage types will be Karrnathi, or hate Queen Aurala, or have a problem with authority and dislike the military... but it will not, in any way, limit the power of those that do become knights phantom. They will still all be better than an eldritch knight of equal level.Imagine a swordmaster PrC that gave a bonus feat at each odd level, and +2 to damage with swords at each even level. It has requirements "feats: Weapon Focus (any), special: must be inducted into the super secret swordmaster order which only takes applicants once per generation". Is the PC who gets the class anywhere near balanced against a fighter of equal level?</blockquote>