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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BigFish" data-source="post: 2015153" data-attributes="member: 23399">To clarify my “complaints” about the Knight class, let me try putting it this way.I find fault in the attempt to pigeon hole them into “Good” (Chivalric)  and “Bad” (non-chivalric) knight classes, is a bit to much of a simplification, in the context of the Arthurian tales.  The characters don’t always fall neatly into either category. And, while yes, the “Nobility” score system does allow for some leeway, and role playing. Personally, I found the R & R: Excalibur’s “Virtue”  system a “better” way of accommodating a  tracking “reputation”, with out falling into the “forced class change” trap.Having said that, no the system LoE uses isn’t bad or wrong. Just one I found lacking.At the vary least I would suggest that , a few more  “Core” knight classes need to be added  to get a bit more of the flavor.I found the “Spectral” knight PrC’s, to be a bit much, mainly because I never got the feeling that there were organized “gangs” of Red, Green, Blue, etc. knights running about. I got the impression  that they were unique when reading the stories. My personal feeling is, things like Knightly Orders, and becoming a member of the Round table would have made better choices for knightly PrC’s.</blockquote>