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<blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 2600815" data-attributes="member: 12332">Ex not Su, that's right.&nbsp; Mea Culpa.&nbsp; I was being wry, anyway.When fighting something with huge CR, and you KNOW about it, it's best for the spellcasters to devote the entirety of their spells to buffs of some sort or another, and conjurations.&nbsp; Go to d20srd.org and check out their Spell Filter feature, you can easily run through all of the spells for each class and level of spell you have access to from the SRD and see what doesn't get blocked by SR.Mostly it's conjuration spells ... battlefield control like Solid Fog (I think) and Wall of Force ... if the casters buff and the Wizard tosses down some WoF spells that contain the angel where, say, the Buffed To The Gills Barbarian can wail on him for a few rounds, etc.SR is a tough thing when you're fighting inappropriately-CRed creatures ... same with Templated creatures who gain SR based on HD ... where you can easily get a monster with an appropriate CR, but lots of HD and basically Immunity To Your Puny Spells.&nbsp; --fje</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HeapThaumaturgist, post: 2600815, member: 12332"] Ex not Su, that's right. Mea Culpa. I was being wry, anyway. When fighting something with huge CR, and you KNOW about it, it's best for the spellcasters to devote the entirety of their spells to buffs of some sort or another, and conjurations. Go to d20srd.org and check out their Spell Filter feature, you can easily run through all of the spells for each class and level of spell you have access to from the SRD and see what doesn't get blocked by SR. Mostly it's conjuration spells ... battlefield control like Solid Fog (I think) and Wall of Force ... if the casters buff and the Wizard tosses down some WoF spells that contain the angel where, say, the Buffed To The Gills Barbarian can wail on him for a few rounds, etc. SR is a tough thing when you're fighting inappropriately-CRed creatures ... same with Templated creatures who gain SR based on HD ... where you can easily get a monster with an appropriate CR, but lots of HD and basically Immunity To Your Puny Spells. --fje [/QUOTE]

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