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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KKDragonLord" data-source="post: 4906980" data-attributes="member: 53721">these beigns are all a lot different than a block of ice, a door, a bridge or a piece of wood.Rogues aren't trained in karate, or engineering or an indeep knowledge of anatomy.They cant do anything to a fire elemental other than whacking it on its amorphous body, just like a fighter would.either way, i am quite sure you won't concede to my point since it looks so obviously absurd to you, but i am also sure that a lot of people would agree with with me, so i won't... Hey, folks. Piratecat here, breaking into the screed to point out an example of how not to reply to someone. This post manages to insult them even as it fumes "Fine, if I can't convince you, I'm insulting you, taking my toys and going home."  Please don't do this.  Now, on with the object lesson. ~ PCat...even bother wasting my time on you as you are obviously choosing to be dense and ignore 20+ years of experience with rogues and their limitations for sneak attacking and backstabbing that the other incarnations of the game previously had. If that simple catch all "weak point" explanation of yours is enough for you and your group thats fine, but for some of us it just doesn't cut it.</blockquote>