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WayneLigon

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The following italiced text is from the City of Heroes board... Now, it sounds like someone's made-up fantasy to me but since it invokes a real person I thought I'd put it here and see what's what. I was not aware Dee was ever on staff at TSR, either, but that's something I rarely paid attention to then. Anyone know someone who can confirm or deny? I have no idea if Jeff reads these boards or not.

The net just puts issues in higher relief. I have been writing RPGs (or used to) since Gygax owned Tactical Studies Rules. True story, and from Jeff Dee, who co-wrote Villains and Vigilantes, so it's on topic for CoH ;-)

Jeff was a staff artist for TSR at one time (before joining the ranks of incredibly well paid writers and artists at FGU, tch'yeah). One day a tour came through of half a dozen kids. Possibly emotionally or intellectually challenged, he thought, since their motions were uncertain, their eyes did not track properly, their speech seemed blurry, etc. Two adults were shepherding the kids along, and he realized their dialogue with the children was along the lines of "and this is where they draw the pictures, you see, they make the images up here, etc."

He asked later and verified that these were kids so immersed in D&D that they were well into psychological damage territory. Their therapists had arranged a field trip to Lake Geneva to demonstrate that the game was a creation of people in offices.

That level of disassociation seems to be an inherent trap in the hobby in all its forms, for particularly vulnerable individuals.
 

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I'd ignore it. D&D bashing cleverly hidden within seemingly credible stories comes more naturally than breathing to some people.
 

Dude, that storie is so trooth I NO BECUZ IT HAPENNED 2 ME!!! i was one of them kidz. Doy, doy, doy! Ouch, mommy. My brain hurts... Where I put my copy of Dunjun Module I2? Me brain hurt if try thunk where is. I saw lizard men outside me window last night, trry steal me treazure. Gotta go bury my choklot gold pieces in backyard now B-for lizard dudes findz me. Goo-bye!

***nervous twitch*** :uhoh:
 

I'd say it's possible, but really very incredibly unlikely. More like the person who posted that had just seen Mazes and Monsters.
 

Ugh, Mazes & Monsters. That movie was simply....ugh. Not bad, or horrible, just.....ugh. Bad acting, bad casting, bad plot, bad cinematography, bad best boy, bad grip, bad coffee go-getter, bad everything. UGH!
 
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Jeff Dee was an artist for TSR from 1979 to 1981 or so. You can see a list of his credits here:

http://www.pen-paper.net/rpgdb.php?op=showcreator&creatorid=509

I can't say a thing for the veracity of the story itself, but I highly doubt it is the truth. My personal guess would be more along the lines of some special needs kids got a tour of TSR, perhaps because they actually used D&D to draw thse kids out and teach them things like math skills in a rewarding, practical way. Some idiot staff member made some stupid joke about these kids that matched up with this story and it spread around to become "a true story"
 

Ask Col. Pladoh--he was still at TSR during the years Jeff was. He should certainly know if psychologically damaged kids were given a tour to help their mental state.

Of course, he may die laughing when you ask him if this is true, so maybe you'd better not.
 

Total hijack, but it seems as good a place as any to gloat (and it's about Jeff Dee)

Last weekend I bought a pristine Villains and Vigilantes boxed set (Including seven (!) modules) for .....

2 BUCKS CANADIAN

Woot For me!
 


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