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<blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 2100000" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>Not a problem. I think that one of the things that makes our group work (aside from the fact that we're all lifelong friends) is that we don't hold onto our annoyances about the system. If an unexpected rule conflict rears its head then we have a tacit understanding that, unless it involves the possible death of a PC, the GM will make a non-binding snap ruling that does not set a precedent. After the game we'll look into it more carefully, make our cases and let the GM decide the ruling he wants to use for the course of the campaign.</p><p></p><p>But I see a difference between "rules disputes" and "rules you just don't like". One of the guys in our group is vaguely annoyed by the Vancian magic system. He likes spell points and so forth better. But he understands that this is just a personal gripe with the system and not a major annoyance to everybody else in the group. He therefore does not launch into a new tirade about it every time the Wizard casts a spell. He just embraces it and works with it, deriving his enjoyment of the game from other aspects of it. If, when he gets around to GMing next, he wishes to house rule it to something else then that's his option.</p><p></p><p>I guess the threads that get me down are never the ones where somebody says, "I didn't like the way that the X part of the system worked so I fixed it to my liking by doing Y. If it bothers you too then I'm happy to share my fix..." What bugs me are the ones where people are saying, "I hate this part of the system and you should too. They'd better fix this in 4E!"</p><p></p><p>My point is that life is too damn short to play games that don't give you enjoyment. If you dislike something that badly then why the hell are you waiting around for them to fix it in 4E?! Fix it yourself. People here will help you. But don't then complain that you can't get anybody to play using your variant rules because they like the RAW better. Because that's the point where you've just got to understand that your vision of what a good RPG system should be is simply at odds with what most people prefer. So either try and live with something more mainstream, keep hunting for players who are like-minded or take up a new hobby.</p><p></p><p>Bitching about it endlessly here is not doing you any good and I think it makes you look bad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rel, post: 2100000, member: 99"] Not a problem. I think that one of the things that makes our group work (aside from the fact that we're all lifelong friends) is that we don't hold onto our annoyances about the system. If an unexpected rule conflict rears its head then we have a tacit understanding that, unless it involves the possible death of a PC, the GM will make a non-binding snap ruling that does not set a precedent. After the game we'll look into it more carefully, make our cases and let the GM decide the ruling he wants to use for the course of the campaign. But I see a difference between "rules disputes" and "rules you just don't like". One of the guys in our group is vaguely annoyed by the Vancian magic system. He likes spell points and so forth better. But he understands that this is just a personal gripe with the system and not a major annoyance to everybody else in the group. He therefore does not launch into a new tirade about it every time the Wizard casts a spell. He just embraces it and works with it, deriving his enjoyment of the game from other aspects of it. If, when he gets around to GMing next, he wishes to house rule it to something else then that's his option. I guess the threads that get me down are never the ones where somebody says, "I didn't like the way that the X part of the system worked so I fixed it to my liking by doing Y. If it bothers you too then I'm happy to share my fix..." What bugs me are the ones where people are saying, "I hate this part of the system and you should too. They'd better fix this in 4E!" My point is that life is too damn short to play games that don't give you enjoyment. If you dislike something that badly then why the hell are you waiting around for them to fix it in 4E?! Fix it yourself. People here will help you. But don't then complain that you can't get anybody to play using your variant rules because they like the RAW better. Because that's the point where you've just got to understand that your vision of what a good RPG system should be is simply at odds with what most people prefer. So either try and live with something more mainstream, keep hunting for players who are like-minded or take up a new hobby. Bitching about it endlessly here is not doing you any good and I think it makes you look bad. [/QUOTE]
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