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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 2949751" data-attributes="member: 11586"><p>Normally this is true with metamagic spells, as they typical force you to use up your higher level spell slots to cast them. But we have to remember a couple things.</p><p></p><p>1) Heighten spell changes the effective spell level of the spell.</p><p>2) Naenhoon replaces the need for spell slots with turning attempts (much like Divine Metamagic)</p><p>3) You don't need to actually cast the spell at the time of picking the Extra Slot feat. You just need to be capable of doing so. Which, with this combo, you can do.</p><p></p><p>So, you can cast 4th (or in this case 9th) level spells when you combine the Illumian Naenhoon ability with Heighten spell feat. Heighten spell feat raises the effective spell level. Normally you would need an open spell slot to Heighten the spell into, just like with all metamagic feats. However, Naenhoon replaces the need to have an open higher level spell slot with the ability to use turning attempts in the place of those slots. So instead of using a 9th level spell slot to Heighten a spell, we are using 9 turning attempts thanks to Naenhoon (which works similiar to Divine Metamagic).</p><p></p><p>So, spend 6 turning attempts, turn a 3rd level spell into a 9th level one. Cast it in your Sanctum to raise it to 10th level. You are now capable of casting 10th level spells. Pick Extra Slot feat, with allows you to gain a spell slot 1 level lower than you can cast. What can we cast? A 10th level spells. So we can get a 9th level spell slot out of this.</p><p></p><p>That's all you need to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RigaMortus2, post: 2949751, member: 11586"] Normally this is true with metamagic spells, as they typical force you to use up your higher level spell slots to cast them. But we have to remember a couple things. 1) Heighten spell changes the effective spell level of the spell. 2) Naenhoon replaces the need for spell slots with turning attempts (much like Divine Metamagic) 3) You don't need to actually cast the spell at the time of picking the Extra Slot feat. You just need to be capable of doing so. Which, with this combo, you can do. So, you can cast 4th (or in this case 9th) level spells when you combine the Illumian Naenhoon ability with Heighten spell feat. Heighten spell feat raises the effective spell level. Normally you would need an open spell slot to Heighten the spell into, just like with all metamagic feats. However, Naenhoon replaces the need to have an open higher level spell slot with the ability to use turning attempts in the place of those slots. So instead of using a 9th level spell slot to Heighten a spell, we are using 9 turning attempts thanks to Naenhoon (which works similiar to Divine Metamagic). So, spend 6 turning attempts, turn a 3rd level spell into a 9th level one. Cast it in your Sanctum to raise it to 10th level. You are now capable of casting 10th level spells. Pick Extra Slot feat, with allows you to gain a spell slot 1 level lower than you can cast. What can we cast? A 10th level spells. So we can get a 9th level spell slot out of this. That's all you need to do. [/QUOTE]
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