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Kobold Adept4 - Balanced CR1?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jolly Giant" data-source="post: 1922854" data-attributes="member: 5278"><p>Kobold warrior 4:</p><p></p><p>STR 8, DEX 16 (including lvl 4 stat-increase), CON 9, INT 9, WIS 10, CHA 8</p><p></p><p>Feats: Improved Initiative, Weapon Finesse</p><p>Possessions: MW Shortsword, MW Heavy Shield, MW Breastplate, MW Light Crossbow, Vest of Resistance +1 (2000gp, for a CR2 NPC)</p><p></p><p>With this build, the kobold has:</p><p></p><p>HP: 14</p><p>Initiative: +7</p><p>AC: 22 (+1 size, +3 DEX, +2 shield, +5 armor, +1 NA)</p><p>F/R/W: 4/5/2</p><p>Shortsword: +10 melee (1D4-1, 19-20/x2)</p><p>Crossbow: +9 ranged (1D6, 19-20/x2)</p><p></p><p>This certainly doesn't look like a CR1 encounter to me! Well, it isn't; since the kobold has the equipment of a CR2 NPC... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> However, if you remove his Vest of Resistance and give him non-MW shield and armor, then he has CR1 NPC equipment and he <em>still</em> looks at least CR2, IMHO. He'd just get -1 to all saves and +2 armor check penalty, after all.</p><p></p><p>A lvl 1 fighter very rarely has more than +5 -often less- on his attack (STR 16, MW weapon, Weapon Focus). In other words, he'd need to roll 17 or better to hit. With the kobolds 14 hp, the fighter would probably need at least 2 hits or a critical to bring the kobold down. Even then he might need to be lucky when rolling for damage!</p><p></p><p>The kobold on the other hand, should have a better than 50/50 chance of hitting with each attack. He won't deal that much damage, but with his +4 size bonus to hide he might very well earn him a surprise attack on the PCs, and with +7 on initiative he's likely to go first (or at least early) after the surprise round. </p><p></p><p>The combat might go something like this: </p><p></p><p>Surprice round: Kobold fires crossbow. Round 1: Kobold charges with his sword.</p><p></p><p>He'd have a fair chance of taking out lvl 1 wiz/sor/bard/rogue before any of the PCs get to do anything... In other words, he's <em>not</em> a CR1 encounter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jolly Giant, post: 1922854, member: 5278"] Kobold warrior 4: STR 8, DEX 16 (including lvl 4 stat-increase), CON 9, INT 9, WIS 10, CHA 8 Feats: Improved Initiative, Weapon Finesse Possessions: MW Shortsword, MW Heavy Shield, MW Breastplate, MW Light Crossbow, Vest of Resistance +1 (2000gp, for a CR2 NPC) With this build, the kobold has: HP: 14 Initiative: +7 AC: 22 (+1 size, +3 DEX, +2 shield, +5 armor, +1 NA) F/R/W: 4/5/2 Shortsword: +10 melee (1D4-1, 19-20/x2) Crossbow: +9 ranged (1D6, 19-20/x2) This certainly doesn't look like a CR1 encounter to me! Well, it isn't; since the kobold has the equipment of a CR2 NPC... :p However, if you remove his Vest of Resistance and give him non-MW shield and armor, then he has CR1 NPC equipment and he [I]still[/I] looks at least CR2, IMHO. He'd just get -1 to all saves and +2 armor check penalty, after all. A lvl 1 fighter very rarely has more than +5 -often less- on his attack (STR 16, MW weapon, Weapon Focus). In other words, he'd need to roll 17 or better to hit. With the kobolds 14 hp, the fighter would probably need at least 2 hits or a critical to bring the kobold down. Even then he might need to be lucky when rolling for damage! The kobold on the other hand, should have a better than 50/50 chance of hitting with each attack. He won't deal that much damage, but with his +4 size bonus to hide he might very well earn him a surprise attack on the PCs, and with +7 on initiative he's likely to go first (or at least early) after the surprise round. The combat might go something like this: Surprice round: Kobold fires crossbow. Round 1: Kobold charges with his sword. He'd have a fair chance of taking out lvl 1 wiz/sor/bard/rogue before any of the PCs get to do anything... In other words, he's [I]not[/I] a CR1 encounter. [/QUOTE]
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