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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8978454" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>That's true.</p><p></p><p>I don't think so. I don't think most people "excoriated" the statement. I think a fairly small proportion of commenters did, but did so loudly and repeatedly. If I missed some stunning and brilliant takedown, I apologise, but what I saw was the same equivocation and whinging repeated over and over, not an actual argument.</p><p></p><p>Which is literally equivocation.</p><p></p><p>It's intentionally avoiding the reality of the issue by talking around.</p><p></p><p>The reality is, WotC are not going to continue to print the PHB/DMG/MM after 2024 in physical form. As [USER=52905]@darjr[/USER] pointed out, realistically, there will still be plenty on the shelves for quite a while, and even after that, used ones will likely be extremely cheap, but pretending WotC are going to keep publishing them, even though would make no sense whatsoever, and they haven't said they would, just because, technically have definitely said they would is absolutely ludicrous behaviour. Amusing precisely the kind of behaviour normally unfairly allocate to lawyers!</p><p></p><p>"Not provably correct/true" is just absolutely risible, laughable shenanigans and you trying to argue that you're talking "facts" and stuff whilst using lines like that is funny but nothing else. Particularly re: "Which is closer to 5E??!". That will literally forever be opinion. There will be people arguing which was closer, on this very messageboard, 10 or 20 years from now (assuming it's still here or has some future equivalent). You know this. So frankly it's fine for them to imply that theirs will be closer. Is it marketing? Yes it is marketing. Marketing like WotC is engaging very heavily themselves!</p><p></p><p>Let me make an assertion, and let's see how you react: <strong>Even you, [USER=7023840]@Snarf Zagyg[/USER] do not actually believe that WotC will continue to print copies of the 5E (rather than 1D&D) PHB/DMG/MM after 2024.</strong></p><p></p><p>True or false? Don't give me some quantum superposition nonsense lol.</p><p></p><p>And as I said, really putting a lie to your "FUD" line was that KP are being, frankly, unrealistic about the electronic future of the 5E PHB/DMG/MM. If they really wanted to go FUD, they'd have said those would end too - in fact, based on what happened to Volo/Mordenkainen's on Beyond, that's not unlikely - there is I guess the get-out that KP maybe believe Roll 20 and Fantasy Grounds will continue to have electronic versions? Or the slim but not impossible chance that WotC will turn the OOP 5E stuff into PDFs for DM's Guild (I doubt it, given Volo/Mordenkainen didn't get that).</p><p></p><p>As for:</p><p></p><p>I'd Cassandra is probably the closest. But I think it's more like, we all know what's going to happen, and a few people are pretending it won't.</p><p></p><p>As for "mor-ans", you're obviously putting words into my mouth, which is again, funny at best. Come on dude.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: LOL the classic move of start an argument, ask for specific answers, then block the person when they give those answers. Like I said, this is high-grade internet right here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8978454, member: 18"] That's true. I don't think so. I don't think most people "excoriated" the statement. I think a fairly small proportion of commenters did, but did so loudly and repeatedly. If I missed some stunning and brilliant takedown, I apologise, but what I saw was the same equivocation and whinging repeated over and over, not an actual argument. Which is literally equivocation. It's intentionally avoiding the reality of the issue by talking around. The reality is, WotC are not going to continue to print the PHB/DMG/MM after 2024 in physical form. As [USER=52905]@darjr[/USER] pointed out, realistically, there will still be plenty on the shelves for quite a while, and even after that, used ones will likely be extremely cheap, but pretending WotC are going to keep publishing them, even though would make no sense whatsoever, and they haven't said they would, just because, technically have definitely said they would is absolutely ludicrous behaviour. Amusing precisely the kind of behaviour normally unfairly allocate to lawyers! "Not provably correct/true" is just absolutely risible, laughable shenanigans and you trying to argue that you're talking "facts" and stuff whilst using lines like that is funny but nothing else. Particularly re: "Which is closer to 5E??!". That will literally forever be opinion. There will be people arguing which was closer, on this very messageboard, 10 or 20 years from now (assuming it's still here or has some future equivalent). You know this. So frankly it's fine for them to imply that theirs will be closer. Is it marketing? Yes it is marketing. Marketing like WotC is engaging very heavily themselves! Let me make an assertion, and let's see how you react: [B]Even you, [USER=7023840]@Snarf Zagyg[/USER] do not actually believe that WotC will continue to print copies of the 5E (rather than 1D&D) PHB/DMG/MM after 2024.[/B] True or false? Don't give me some quantum superposition nonsense lol. And as I said, really putting a lie to your "FUD" line was that KP are being, frankly, unrealistic about the electronic future of the 5E PHB/DMG/MM. If they really wanted to go FUD, they'd have said those would end too - in fact, based on what happened to Volo/Mordenkainen's on Beyond, that's not unlikely - there is I guess the get-out that KP maybe believe Roll 20 and Fantasy Grounds will continue to have electronic versions? Or the slim but not impossible chance that WotC will turn the OOP 5E stuff into PDFs for DM's Guild (I doubt it, given Volo/Mordenkainen didn't get that). As for: I'd Cassandra is probably the closest. But I think it's more like, we all know what's going to happen, and a few people are pretending it won't. As for "mor-ans", you're obviously putting words into my mouth, which is again, funny at best. Come on dude. EDIT: LOL the classic move of start an argument, ask for specific answers, then block the person when they give those answers. Like I said, this is high-grade internet right here. [/QUOTE]
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